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| Is my life too mundane? Should I learn these conversations before my next trip? In "Introductions and chat" [379465/32487/1] Posted by grahame at 11:02, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
My social media feed has come to the view that I need to learn English and is giving me teaching examples in a whole lot of what I would describe as unusual and tense situations. It makes me wonder if my life is rather too boring and mundane and whether I should solicit more excitement.
Which of the sample conversations would YOU find useful in [a new language]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1695317711677128
A girl realizes she boarded the wrong train and urgently asks the driver to stop. The driver explains that trains cannot stop outside stations except in serious emergencies. Despite her pleading, he firmly insists she must wait until the next station.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/28117763127915670
The wife, angry and suspicious, demands to know who the other woman is. The husband, nervous and defensive, insists she is just an important client. Furious, the wife accuses him of cheating and demands the truth. Shocked and irritated, the husband denies it, saying they are discussing a business deal. Hurt and accusatory, the wife asks why he didn’t mention the meeting. Cold and dismissive, the husband replies he doesn’t have to explain every work meeting. Angry and convinced, the wife insists he is lying. Explosive and fed up, the husband shouts that she ruined everything and orders her to leave. This scene highlights mistrust, jealousy, and the clash between personal emotions and professional boundaries.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1066494169472405
Two girls notice something unusual near the water. Shocked, one thinks it might be a body, while the other, alarmed, warns her not to get closer. Uncertain, the first suggests it could be a mannequin or trash, but serious, the second insists they must call the police. Nervous, the first struggles to find her phone, while urgent, the second dials emergency services. Worried, the first wonders if they should check for breathing, but firm, the second tells her not to touch anything and wait for the police. This scene highlights fear, responsibility, and quick decision‑making in a tense situation.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/1050327304469016
A firm museum guard stops a young man from entering after visiting hours. Worried, the man explains he dropped his wallet inside, containing cash, credit cards, and ID. Serious, the guard insists entry after closing is forbidden. Pleading, the man begs for just a minute to recover his belongings. Considering the situation, the guard agrees to accompany him inside for a quick look. Relieved, the man thanks him, saying he just saved his life. This scene highlights rules, urgency, and compassion.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/2602376973550988
A frustrated customer complains to the waiter after waiting more than thirty minutes for food. She points out that another table was served earlier, which makes her angry. The waiter apologizes and explains that the other dish required less preparation time, but the customer insists the service is unacceptable. Finally, she demands to see the manager, and the waiter respectfully agrees. This scene highlights frustration, apology, and escalation in customer service.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/4302126330039663
A husband and wife are preparing for a trip. The husband asks if everything is packed, but the wife realizes the blue bag with swimsuits is missing. He admits he didn’t load it, and she calmly suggests they get it now. The dialogue shows curiosity, worry, frustration, and calmness.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/4023647764609125
A man is accidentally sprayed with pepper spray by a woman who thought he was trying to steal her bag. The man explains he only wanted directions, and the woman apologizes, offering to help him wash his face. The dialogue shows pain, misunderstanding, regret, and relief.
| More reliable than a 175.... In "The Lighter Side" [379464/32486/30] Posted by old original at 10:51, 12th September 2026 Already liked by GBM | ![]() |
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19HAabutjM/
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379462/32479/24] Posted by John D at 10:31, 12th September 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
It will also be interesting to see what happens to First Group-owned assets currently being used by GWR....don't they own some of the 803xxx IETs for example? I've been told that they're staying in the train plan after Dec 13th, by someone who possibly is high enough to have heard....
Presumably they will be able to lease them out at very high rates to the new operator. Train leasing where there is no alternative fleet is very lucrative. Confirmed by some of the very expensive lease extensions that have happened in recent years.
It's not a competitive market, it's take it (the high price) or go without, and without a decent pool of universal alternatives, pay up seems to be DfT default short term option.
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379461/32479/24] Posted by grahame at 10:30, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
It will also be interesting to see what happens to First Group-owned assets currently being used by GWR....don't they own some of the 803xxx IETs for example? I've been told that they're staying in the train plan after Dec 13th, by someone who possibly is high enough to have heard....
First Group becomes a RoSCo ... supplying to the DfT's companies. The old rule about not being both the operator and the owner of the stock (for the most part) goes away when the company is no longer the operator, and First Group open access operators could take a commercial decision to have a portfolio of rolling stock in excess of their needs and hire the rest out to the HMG operators.
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379460/32479/24] Posted by ChrisB at 10:20, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
It will also be interesting to see what happens to First Group-owned assets currently being used by GWR....don't they own some of the 803xxx IETs for example? I've been told that they're staying in the train plan after Dec 13th, by someone who possibly is high enough to have heard....
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [379458/31163/26] Posted by grahame at 10:01, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
So are all GWR/TfL systems/timetables fully updated?
National Rail's latest update (0701 this morning) states "Disruption is expected to continue until further notice".
Have all impacted customers been alerted as you suggest?
National Rail's latest update (0701 this morning) states "Disruption is expected to continue until further notice".
Have all impacted customers been alerted as you suggest?
No, and no. GWR and TfL systems may have been updated, but that doesn't / hasn't meant that all derivatives will have been updated and some third party sites, which people use, remain advertising (I have just looked) through trains from Cholsey to London, for example, for tomorrow.
Case Study:
The Interrail planning and ticket app is a necessary part of Interrail travel as you go through the trains on offer and add the one(s) you want to your ticket - it's not just a nice little planner. And typically it's good real time - in Germany, where trains are notoriously late, it'll give you real time delays and platform changes; used it a number of times on one late running train to see if the connection will make to the next late running train, and also to find the platform information. We made a 4 minute change in Frankfurt Hbf - complete with mobility device (used in racer mode) thanks to it.
You CAN add trains that don't come up or differ manually to the app and your ticket if I was travelling Cholsey to Paddington tomorrow, though, and knowing what I known would add the falsely advertised train as far as Reading, then an IET diesel express into Paddington.

| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379457/32458/1] Posted by grahame at 09:43, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
22 out of 23 of our voters have travelled more that 75% of American residents if you measure that by countries visited - which perhaps goes to show how different we all are, how skewed our readership is, or how you can show just about anything with stats if you put your mind to it.
Original post about the USA residents aside, the poll has confirmed what a bunch of well travelled folks we are on the Coffee Shop.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [379456/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:40, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
We're now back to close of play on the 14th......
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
And that projection remains:
Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
Our cancellation / disruption map at the head of the Coffee Shop pages looks/ed welcomely clear of the great grey splurge of issues from Paddington this morning, but my research has confirmed that's because the changes are no longer short notice ones, but have been entered into systems so that they've been known about and planned a number of days ahead.
Good to know well ahead - customers can have been alerted and have planned to cope with the disruption, which at instigation couldn't have been fairly blamed on the rail industry, though ongoing it does feel as if recovery from incidents takes far, far longer than it use to. Not unique to GWR, or rail - I note that the FT headlines this morning suggest that the air traffic control meltdown this week and the l-o-n-g recovery that took was due to a military aircraft entering a spurious data flight path into the system. Probably the right thing to do an "oh sh*t" when wrong / random data turns up - safety first - but the recovery time from events has one wondering.
So are all GWR/TfL systems/timetables fully updated?
National Rail's latest update (0701 this morning) states "Disruption is expected to continue until further notice".
Have all impacted customers been alerted as you suggest?
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379455/32479/24] Posted by grahame at 09:10, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
Railtrack seem to spend all their money on renewals, but if someone pays them to build a passing loop such as Newquay branch they will do it. If GWR/First Group paid them (it's what shareholders money is for) they would build. We might have had more loops in Devon, Cornwall, and Somerset.
GWR are not interested in the Southwest unless dragged screaming and kicking by third parties. It's just a loss l(fee)ader for the main line.
GWR are not interested in the Southwest unless dragged screaming and kicking by third parties. It's just a loss l(fee)ader for the main line.
Shareholder's money (and that's, perhaps, your and my pension pots) is there son that it can be an engine for the company to invest and provide more money over time as value and dividends. Where there's only a short time before a cutoff after which the gains from investment won't come to your shareholders then, yes, the company won't build.
The temptation must be to use their resources (including income from operation) to build for the longer term, which perhaps means vibrant markets from London to Carmarthen (from Paddington), Stirling (from Euston) and Hull and Edinburgh (from Kings Cross) where there is potential for significant ongoing healthy income without the need to support loss-leader service and trains line the - perhaps - 04:57 Plymouth to Gunnislake.
There's a further temptation when doing stuff that will last longer term for others to do so at as high a price as can be reasonably charged to increase the shareholder benefit, and where there's a resource shortage to auction it to the highest bidder. That's the way it's designed to work, and that ripples down too so that other suppliers *to* GWR can also charge a market rate for scarcity resources, and not what it really costs.
As Webmaster, I should point out these are my own musings and do not suggest a forum's view on the system.
Now - take a local or regional train from ... Par to Newquay, Bristol to Portishead, Swindon to Westbury, Exeter to Barnstaple or any other non-intercity route.
* It's shorter than a London to Plymouth train so it needs more staff per passenger carried
* The fares per mile are typically regulated lower
* The miles are covered slower, so the "take" per seat per minute is less, even at the same mileage route
* The route is shorter so there are more turn around times when the train is idle
* They are commuter-y routes with a much sharper peak than the intercity stuff
* Flows tend to be one way in the morning and back in the evening - no revenue one way even in peaks
* Higher proportion of unpaid fares / fewer barriers and shorter time to engage with people
Many of these may not be very significant on some lines, but compounded that make an order of magnitude difference.
Edit to add another reason that intercity trains are so much more lucrative for the TOCs
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379454/32456/31] Posted by Mark A at 08:37, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
With torches from a previous era, a question is: 'Can I replace the bulb in this with a quality LED'? If the answer is 'Yes', this is rewarding (and even more so if a warm white LED is available, but perhaps that's just me.)
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [379453/31163/26] Posted by grahame at 08:37, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
We're now back to close of play on the 14th......
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
And that projection remains:
Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
Our cancellation / disruption map at the head of the Coffee Shop pages looks/ed welcomely clear of the great grey splurge of issues from Paddington this morning, but my research has confirmed that's because the changes are no longer short notice ones, but have been entered into systems so that they've been known about and planned a number of days ahead.
Good to know well ahead - customers can have been alerted and have planned to cope with the disruption, which at instigation couldn't have been fairly blamed on the rail industry, though ongoing it does feel as if recovery from incidents takes far, far longer than it use to. Not unique to GWR, or rail - I note that the FT headlines this morning suggest that the air traffic control meltdown this week and the l-o-n-g recovery that took was due to a military aircraft entering a spurious data flight path into the system. Probably the right thing to do an "oh sh*t" when wrong / random data turns up - safety first - but the recovery time from events has one wondering.
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379452/32479/24] Posted by REVUpminster at 08:25, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
Railtrack seem to spend all their money on renewals, but if someone pays them to build a passing loop such as Newquay branch they will do it. If GWR/First Group paid them (it's what shareholders money is for) they would build. We might have had more loops in Devon, Cornwall, and Somerset.
GWR are not interested in the Southwest unless dragged screaming and kicking by third parties. It's just a loss l(fee)ader for the main line.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [379451/28355/22] Posted by grahame at 08:23, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
Perhaps an unfair snapshot - but half the service cancelled today. Yes, journey can be made with a changes at Didcot, but no customer advice to let people know that.
A few weeks on - and I have noted occasional distinctive red streaks on our cancellation may - so I took a look at the record via recent time trains for the last 8 week.
Whilst it's far from perfect, it's pretty much what GWR's been achieving elsewhere. I also noted an occasion that it ran with a 166 rather than an IET which I would see as a sensible alternative at times something goes very wrong.

| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379450/32456/31] Posted by GBM at 08:00, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
I used to have a very large 'Maglight' metal torch, which took at least three, possibly four, D cell batteries.
It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole.
It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole.

Thank you for reminding me.
We still have a large Maglite in the cupboard. Tried it a minute ago, and still lights up, but not used it for years!
| Blackpool trams don't go to Fleetwood any more In "Railway History and related topics" [379449/32484/55] Posted by infoman at 03:40, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
On a recent visit to the area, trams terminate at Fisherman wharf,
due to possible collapse of a building on the tram route.
Bus excepts tram tickets to take passengers to Fleetwood ferry from Fisherman wharf
The rail link to Blackpool North train station is now operational.
Some trams go from Starr gate to the station and then return
Others go from Fishermans wharf to the train station and return
Some services travel Starr gate to Fisherman wharf and don't go to the train station
What I did find surprising that their are no departure LED displays on any of the tram tops.
I can't believe that all the trams run to time and the planned time table.
The other thing that surprised me is that their are no ticket issuing machines on the tram stops.
We will always have an element that want to avoid the fare,so why not get the money out of those who WANT TO PAY,first.
So the ticket collector can concentrate on those who are trying to avoid paying.
I presume that the ticket collectors machines have developed faults during the course of shift/s.
Nothing yet for GWR, but seems new train orders for UK have started again.
I don't think there has been any non Open Access orders since 2019 (except the 10 extra Elizabeth line trains and the 10 CAF class 387s for LNER)
29 x 5car trains for Transpennine have just been announced (but not until 2034) from Alstom at Derby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo
I don't think there has been any non Open Access orders since 2019 (except the 10 extra Elizabeth line trains and the 10 CAF class 387s for LNER)
29 x 5car trains for Transpennine have just been announced (but not until 2034) from Alstom at Derby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo
Do you mean class 897? The 387s (made by Bombardier) are in service with GWR and parts of GTR.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379447/32458/1] Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:39, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
In my experience, in a previous job delivering groceries to them, the usually Chinese students were always unfailingly polite. A credit to their upbringing. 

Clearly exemplary.
Especially as they'd been landed with a house built on birdshit whereas others were looking out over Windsor Castle, the Long walk and the Great Park.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379446/32456/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:08, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
I used to have a very large 'Maglight' metal torch, which took at least three, possibly four, D cell batteries.
It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole.

| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379445/32458/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:54, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
In my experience, in a previous job delivering groceries to them, the usually Chinese students were always unfailingly polite. A credit to their upbringing.

| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379444/32458/1] Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:48, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!
It sometimes feel that most of them visit Bath ... and Windsor and Stonehenge, many of them visiting two or even three of those in a day. Away from the "Honey Pots" there are so many places worthy of so many more visitors from USA residents than they get.
To be fair, they tend to be very pleasant in Windsor, like the Japanese. Probably pleased to be away from the madness of London for a few hours!
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379442/32458/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:53, 11th September 2026 Already liked by rogerw | ![]() |
I shall choose my words carefully here, posting my personal view - not the official view from the Coffee Shop forum.
Any visitors from the USA are very welcome to visit one of our local attractions near Nailsea -Tyntesfield (National Trust).
Tyntesfield, a Victorian Gothic mansion with a sprawling estate, was built up on the fortune made by the first Baron, Lord Wraxall, based on shit. Bird shit, in his case, but Donald Trump could feel at home here.
(Sorry - did I say that out loud?
)CfN.

| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [379441/32313/34] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:05, 11th September 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
Posting here, simply to 'bump' this topic / event.
It looks to be a very interesting talk from the guest speaker, and the venue is very convenient for train travellers to and from Trowbridge - the meeting times are tailored accordingly.
CfN.

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been delayed at Gloucester and is now 12 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been delayed at Gloucester and is now 12 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379439/32458/1] Posted by grahame at 18:50, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!
It sometimes feel that most of them visit Bath ... and Windsor and Stonehenge, many of them visiting two or even three of those in a day. Away from the "Honey Pots" there are so many places worthy of so many more visitors from USA residents than they get.
| Re: Train named after Cornish 9/11 hero Rick Rescorla In "Who's who on Western railways" [379438/21257/2] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:31, 11th September 2026 Already liked by FarWestJohn | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Poppies made of scallop shells honour 9/11 victims

Cornish-born Rick Rescorla helped get people out of the World Trade Center's South Tower during the 9/11 attacks - Image © PA Media
A special tribute has been made to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks - including a Cornishman whose actions are credited with helping save lives.
The Veterans Charity invited people to Hayle, Cornwall, to be part of a "poppy production line" using about 6,000 scallop shells to create 2,977 poppies - one for each of the victims of the attacks that happened 25 years ago on Friday.
Among the victims was Rick Rescorla, originally from Hayle, who was a security worker who managed to get people to safety after planes crashed into the World Trade Center.
Iain Henderson, trustee of The Veterans Charity, said the project was a "fitting tribute" to Rescorla and everyone else who died.
(BBC article continues)

Cornish-born Rick Rescorla helped get people out of the World Trade Center's South Tower during the 9/11 attacks - Image © PA Media
A special tribute has been made to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks - including a Cornishman whose actions are credited with helping save lives.
The Veterans Charity invited people to Hayle, Cornwall, to be part of a "poppy production line" using about 6,000 scallop shells to create 2,977 poppies - one for each of the victims of the attacks that happened 25 years ago on Friday.
Among the victims was Rick Rescorla, originally from Hayle, who was a security worker who managed to get people to safety after planes crashed into the World Trade Center.
Iain Henderson, trustee of The Veterans Charity, said the project was a "fitting tribute" to Rescorla and everyone else who died.
(BBC article continues)
| Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR) In "Across the West" [379437/28982/26] Posted by bradshaw at 18:01, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
Funded by Rock Rail with Alstom also having maintenance contract.
https://mediacentre.tpexpress.co.uk/news/tpe-unveils-gbp-1bn-battery-train-fleet-to-transform-rail-travel-across-the-north
| Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts) In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [379436/29076/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:51, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Ryanair boss O'Leary defends 'high-fare rapists' airlines remarks
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has refused to apologise to a rape crisis centre which criticised him for describing rival airlines as "high-fare rapists".
Speaking to journalists, O'Leary said some people were "desperate to get to Ryanair's low fares because they can't afford to fly with the high-fare rapists around Europe".
O'Leary doubled-down on his choice of words when asked about them at the time, and later refused to apologise when the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre (DRCC) wrote to him asking for apology, in a letter seen by the BBC.
Ireland's deputy premier Simon Harris said it was "clearly an inappropriate use of language" and that O'Leary "should have moved to rectify it".
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told UK radio outlet LBC that victims of rape are "not going to be rushing to book tickets with him, let's be honest".
O'Leary made the comments on Thursday while talking to journalists ahead of Ryanair's yearly meeting with shareholders.
Asked by a reporter from the Press Association whether the language was appropriate, he said: "Absolutely."
"British Airways, Lufthansa, and everybody else's high fares, I'll happily offend them on a regular basis," he added.
Asked whether it would offend sexual assault victims, he said rape was "a terrible crime".
Following O'Leary's comments, the DRCC's chief executive Rachel Morrogh wrote to O'Leary accusing him of trying to get a headline with his comments. She said the DRCC had received calls from rape victims who were "upset and distressed because of what you said".
She offered O'Leary training on the impact of sexual violence and urged him to apologise. "I can't imagine you would ever use the term so flippantly again if you truly understood [what] it was like to survive rape," she wrote.
In response, O'Leary said: "I am quite clear that no remarks of mine could possibly trivialise the heinous crime of rape." He added that as he had not "trivialised the heinous crime of rape" he would "not be issuing any apology or accepting your offer of training".
It is not the first time O'Leary has offended people while talking about his business. In 2004, he reportedly called the owners of Stansted Airport "a bunch of overcharging rapists" in a row over airport charges.
He has also previously called some of his own staff "lazy bastards" and once said to passengers looking for a refund "we don't want to hear your sob stories".
In June, he said the airline would "reluctantly" stop charging parents to sit next to children after a watchdog investigation was opened, but insisted its previous policy complied with laws.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has refused to apologise to a rape crisis centre which criticised him for describing rival airlines as "high-fare rapists".
Speaking to journalists, O'Leary said some people were "desperate to get to Ryanair's low fares because they can't afford to fly with the high-fare rapists around Europe".
O'Leary doubled-down on his choice of words when asked about them at the time, and later refused to apologise when the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre (DRCC) wrote to him asking for apology, in a letter seen by the BBC.
Ireland's deputy premier Simon Harris said it was "clearly an inappropriate use of language" and that O'Leary "should have moved to rectify it".
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told UK radio outlet LBC that victims of rape are "not going to be rushing to book tickets with him, let's be honest".
O'Leary made the comments on Thursday while talking to journalists ahead of Ryanair's yearly meeting with shareholders.
Asked by a reporter from the Press Association whether the language was appropriate, he said: "Absolutely."
"British Airways, Lufthansa, and everybody else's high fares, I'll happily offend them on a regular basis," he added.
Asked whether it would offend sexual assault victims, he said rape was "a terrible crime".
Following O'Leary's comments, the DRCC's chief executive Rachel Morrogh wrote to O'Leary accusing him of trying to get a headline with his comments. She said the DRCC had received calls from rape victims who were "upset and distressed because of what you said".
She offered O'Leary training on the impact of sexual violence and urged him to apologise. "I can't imagine you would ever use the term so flippantly again if you truly understood [what] it was like to survive rape," she wrote.
In response, O'Leary said: "I am quite clear that no remarks of mine could possibly trivialise the heinous crime of rape." He added that as he had not "trivialised the heinous crime of rape" he would "not be issuing any apology or accepting your offer of training".
It is not the first time O'Leary has offended people while talking about his business. In 2004, he reportedly called the owners of Stansted Airport "a bunch of overcharging rapists" in a row over airport charges.
He has also previously called some of his own staff "lazy bastards" and once said to passengers looking for a refund "we don't want to hear your sob stories".
In June, he said the airline would "reluctantly" stop charging parents to sit next to children after a watchdog investigation was opened, but insisted its previous policy complied with laws.














