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| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379454/32456/31] Posted by Mark A at 08:37, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
With torches from a previous era, a question is: 'Can I replace the bulb in this with a quality LED'? If the answer is 'Yes', this is rewarding (and even more so if a warm white LED is available, but perhaps that's just me.)
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [379453/31163/26] Posted by grahame at 08:37, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
We're now back to close of play on the 14th......
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
And that projection remains:
Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
Our cancellation / disruption map at the head of the Coffee Shop pages looks/ed welcomely clear of the great grey splurge of issues from Paddington this morning, but my research has confirmed that's because the changes are no longer short notice ones, but have been entered into systems so that they've been known about and planned a number of days ahead.
Good to know well ahead - customers can have been alerted and have planned to cope with the disruption, which at instigation couldn't have been fairly blamed on the rail industry, though ongoing it does feel as if recovery from incidents takes far, far longer than it use to. Not unique to GWR, or rail - I note that the FT headlines this morning suggest that the air traffic control meltdown this week and the l-o-n-g recovery that took was due to a military aircraft entering a spurious data flight path into the system. Probably the right thing to do an "oh sh*t" when wrong / random data turns up - safety first - but the recovery time from events has one wondering.
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379452/32479/24] Posted by REVUpminster at 08:25, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
Railtrack seem to spend all their money on renewals, but if someone pays them to build a passing loop such as Newquay branch they will do it. If GWR/First Group paid them (it's what shareholders money is for) they would build. We might have had more loops in Devon, Cornwall, and Somerset.
GWR are not interested in the Southwest unless dragged screaming and kicking by third parties. It's just a loss l(fee)ader for the main line.
| Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [379451/28355/22] Posted by grahame at 08:23, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
Perhaps an unfair snapshot - but half the service cancelled today. Yes, journey can be made with a changes at Didcot, but no customer advice to let people know that.
A few weeks on - and I have noted occasional distinctive red streaks on our cancellation may - so I took a look at the record via recent time trains for the last 8 week.
Whilst it's far from perfect, it's pretty much what GWR's been achieving elsewhere. I also noted an occasion that it ran with a 166 rather than an IET which I would see as a sensible alternative at times something goes very wrong.

| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379450/32456/31] Posted by GBM at 08:00, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
I used to have a very large 'Maglight' metal torch, which took at least three, possibly four, D cell batteries.
It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole.
It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole.

Thank you for reminding me.
We still have a large Maglite in the cupboard. Tried it a minute ago, and still lights up, but not used it for years!
| Blackpool trams don't go to Fleetwood any more In "Railway History and related topics" [379449/32484/55] Posted by infoman at 03:40, 12th September 2026 | ![]() |
On a recent visit to the area, trams terminate at Fisherman wharf,
due to possible collapse of a building on the tram route.
Bus excepts tram tickets to take passengers to Fleetwood ferry from Fisherman wharf
The rail link to Blackpool North train station is now operational.
Some trams go from Starr gate to the station and then return
Others go from Fishermans wharf to the train station and return
Some services travel Starr gate to Fisherman wharf and don't go to the train station
What I did find surprising that their are no departure LED displays on any of the tram tops.
I can't believe that all the trams run to time and the planned time table.
The other thing that surprised me is that their are no ticket issuing machines on the tram stops.
We will always have an element that want to avoid the fare,so why not get the money out of those who WANT TO PAY,first.
So the ticket collector can concentrate on those who are trying to avoid paying.
I presume that the ticket collectors machines have developed faults during the course of shift/s.
Nothing yet for GWR, but seems new train orders for UK have started again.
I don't think there has been any non Open Access orders since 2019 (except the 10 extra Elizabeth line trains and the 10 CAF class 387s for LNER)
29 x 5car trains for Transpennine have just been announced (but not until 2034) from Alstom at Derby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo
I don't think there has been any non Open Access orders since 2019 (except the 10 extra Elizabeth line trains and the 10 CAF class 387s for LNER)
29 x 5car trains for Transpennine have just been announced (but not until 2034) from Alstom at Derby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo
Do you mean class 897? The 387s (made by Bombardier) are in service with GWR and parts of GTR.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379447/32458/1] Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:39, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
In my experience, in a previous job delivering groceries to them, the usually Chinese students were always unfailingly polite. A credit to their upbringing. 

Clearly exemplary.
Especially as they'd been landed with a house built on birdshit whereas others were looking out over Windsor Castle, the Long walk and the Great Park.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379446/32456/31] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:08, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
I used to have a very large 'Maglight' metal torch, which took at least three, possibly four, D cell batteries.
It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole.

| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379445/32458/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:54, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
In my experience, in a previous job delivering groceries to them, the usually Chinese students were always unfailingly polite. A credit to their upbringing.

| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379444/32458/1] Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:48, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!
It sometimes feel that most of them visit Bath ... and Windsor and Stonehenge, many of them visiting two or even three of those in a day. Away from the "Honey Pots" there are so many places worthy of so many more visitors from USA residents than they get.
To be fair, they tend to be very pleasant in Windsor, like the Japanese. Probably pleased to be away from the madness of London for a few hours!
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379442/32458/1] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:53, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
I shall choose my words carefully here, posting my personal view - not the official view from the Coffee Shop forum.
Any visitors from the USA are very welcome to visit one of our local attractions near Nailsea -Tyntesfield (National Trust).
Tyntesfield, a Victorian Gothic mansion with a sprawling estate, was built up on the fortune made by the first Baron, Lord Wraxall, based on shit. Bird shit, in his case, but Donald Trump could feel at home here.
(Sorry - did I say that out loud?
)CfN.

| Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026 In "Diary - what's happening when?" [379441/32313/34] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:05, 11th September 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
Posting here, simply to 'bump' this topic / event.
It looks to be a very interesting talk from the guest speaker, and the venue is very convenient for train travellers to and from Trowbridge - the meeting times are tailored accordingly.
CfN.

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been delayed at Gloucester and is now 12 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been delayed at Gloucester and is now 12 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379439/32458/1] Posted by grahame at 18:50, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!
It sometimes feel that most of them visit Bath ... and Windsor and Stonehenge, many of them visiting two or even three of those in a day. Away from the "Honey Pots" there are so many places worthy of so many more visitors from USA residents than they get.
| Re: Train named after Cornish 9/11 hero Rick Rescorla In "Who's who on Western railways" [379438/21257/2] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:31, 11th September 2026 Already liked by FarWestJohn | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Poppies made of scallop shells honour 9/11 victims

Cornish-born Rick Rescorla helped get people out of the World Trade Center's South Tower during the 9/11 attacks - Image © PA Media
A special tribute has been made to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks - including a Cornishman whose actions are credited with helping save lives.
The Veterans Charity invited people to Hayle, Cornwall, to be part of a "poppy production line" using about 6,000 scallop shells to create 2,977 poppies - one for each of the victims of the attacks that happened 25 years ago on Friday.
Among the victims was Rick Rescorla, originally from Hayle, who was a security worker who managed to get people to safety after planes crashed into the World Trade Center.
Iain Henderson, trustee of The Veterans Charity, said the project was a "fitting tribute" to Rescorla and everyone else who died.
(BBC article continues)

Cornish-born Rick Rescorla helped get people out of the World Trade Center's South Tower during the 9/11 attacks - Image © PA Media
A special tribute has been made to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks - including a Cornishman whose actions are credited with helping save lives.
The Veterans Charity invited people to Hayle, Cornwall, to be part of a "poppy production line" using about 6,000 scallop shells to create 2,977 poppies - one for each of the victims of the attacks that happened 25 years ago on Friday.
Among the victims was Rick Rescorla, originally from Hayle, who was a security worker who managed to get people to safety after planes crashed into the World Trade Center.
Iain Henderson, trustee of The Veterans Charity, said the project was a "fitting tribute" to Rescorla and everyone else who died.
(BBC article continues)
| Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR) In "Across the West" [379437/28982/26] Posted by bradshaw at 18:01, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
Funded by Rock Rail with Alstom also having maintenance contract.
https://mediacentre.tpexpress.co.uk/news/tpe-unveils-gbp-1bn-battery-train-fleet-to-transform-rail-travel-across-the-north
| Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts) In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [379436/29076/51] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:51, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Ryanair boss O'Leary defends 'high-fare rapists' airlines remarks
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has refused to apologise to a rape crisis centre which criticised him for describing rival airlines as "high-fare rapists".
Speaking to journalists, O'Leary said some people were "desperate to get to Ryanair's low fares because they can't afford to fly with the high-fare rapists around Europe".
O'Leary doubled-down on his choice of words when asked about them at the time, and later refused to apologise when the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre (DRCC) wrote to him asking for apology, in a letter seen by the BBC.
Ireland's deputy premier Simon Harris said it was "clearly an inappropriate use of language" and that O'Leary "should have moved to rectify it".
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told UK radio outlet LBC that victims of rape are "not going to be rushing to book tickets with him, let's be honest".
O'Leary made the comments on Thursday while talking to journalists ahead of Ryanair's yearly meeting with shareholders.
Asked by a reporter from the Press Association whether the language was appropriate, he said: "Absolutely."
"British Airways, Lufthansa, and everybody else's high fares, I'll happily offend them on a regular basis," he added.
Asked whether it would offend sexual assault victims, he said rape was "a terrible crime".
Following O'Leary's comments, the DRCC's chief executive Rachel Morrogh wrote to O'Leary accusing him of trying to get a headline with his comments. She said the DRCC had received calls from rape victims who were "upset and distressed because of what you said".
She offered O'Leary training on the impact of sexual violence and urged him to apologise. "I can't imagine you would ever use the term so flippantly again if you truly understood [what] it was like to survive rape," she wrote.
In response, O'Leary said: "I am quite clear that no remarks of mine could possibly trivialise the heinous crime of rape." He added that as he had not "trivialised the heinous crime of rape" he would "not be issuing any apology or accepting your offer of training".
It is not the first time O'Leary has offended people while talking about his business. In 2004, he reportedly called the owners of Stansted Airport "a bunch of overcharging rapists" in a row over airport charges.
He has also previously called some of his own staff "lazy bastards" and once said to passengers looking for a refund "we don't want to hear your sob stories".
In June, he said the airline would "reluctantly" stop charging parents to sit next to children after a watchdog investigation was opened, but insisted its previous policy complied with laws.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has refused to apologise to a rape crisis centre which criticised him for describing rival airlines as "high-fare rapists".
Speaking to journalists, O'Leary said some people were "desperate to get to Ryanair's low fares because they can't afford to fly with the high-fare rapists around Europe".
O'Leary doubled-down on his choice of words when asked about them at the time, and later refused to apologise when the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre (DRCC) wrote to him asking for apology, in a letter seen by the BBC.
Ireland's deputy premier Simon Harris said it was "clearly an inappropriate use of language" and that O'Leary "should have moved to rectify it".
Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told UK radio outlet LBC that victims of rape are "not going to be rushing to book tickets with him, let's be honest".
O'Leary made the comments on Thursday while talking to journalists ahead of Ryanair's yearly meeting with shareholders.
Asked by a reporter from the Press Association whether the language was appropriate, he said: "Absolutely."
"British Airways, Lufthansa, and everybody else's high fares, I'll happily offend them on a regular basis," he added.
Asked whether it would offend sexual assault victims, he said rape was "a terrible crime".
Following O'Leary's comments, the DRCC's chief executive Rachel Morrogh wrote to O'Leary accusing him of trying to get a headline with his comments. She said the DRCC had received calls from rape victims who were "upset and distressed because of what you said".
She offered O'Leary training on the impact of sexual violence and urged him to apologise. "I can't imagine you would ever use the term so flippantly again if you truly understood [what] it was like to survive rape," she wrote.
In response, O'Leary said: "I am quite clear that no remarks of mine could possibly trivialise the heinous crime of rape." He added that as he had not "trivialised the heinous crime of rape" he would "not be issuing any apology or accepting your offer of training".
It is not the first time O'Leary has offended people while talking about his business. In 2004, he reportedly called the owners of Stansted Airport "a bunch of overcharging rapists" in a row over airport charges.
He has also previously called some of his own staff "lazy bastards" and once said to passengers looking for a refund "we don't want to hear your sob stories".
In June, he said the airline would "reluctantly" stop charging parents to sit next to children after a watchdog investigation was opened, but insisted its previous policy complied with laws.
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379435/32458/1] Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:37, 11th September 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Posting this here somewhat lightheartedly:
Of those 3.9 million US residents who visited the UK, I reckon about 3 million of them have Bath as their destination. Some of them are a pain in the proverbial, milling about in huge groups and generally getting in the way.
However, I did have a great chat with two older American men in a traditional pub in Bath, many years ago. They had ventured out from their hotel to sample an old English pub. We fell into conversation about licensing laws, as they were initially puzzled by the particular wording of the UK signs on the bar, asking for ID.
CfN.
Of those 3.9 million US residents who visited the UK, I reckon about 3 million of them have Bath as their destination. Some of them are a pain in the proverbial, milling about in huge groups and generally getting in the way.
However, I did have a great chat with two older American men in a traditional pub in Bath, many years ago. They had ventured out from their hotel to sample an old English pub. We fell into conversation about licensing laws, as they were initially puzzled by the particular wording of the UK signs on the bar, asking for ID.
CfN.

If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!
| Re: Earley Station, Reading - facilities, footbridge, improvements In "South Western services" [379434/31384/42] Posted by stuving at 16:20, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
The hairier Earley footbridge features in this document from Wokingham Borough Council. A repair to it is in the pipeline, to extend its life by 15 years. A list of risks includes that once repairs are under way, elements of the bridge may be found to be in worse condition than previously thought.
Mark
https://wokingham.moderngov.co.uk/documents/s81089/Capital%20Monitoring%20202526%20-%20Q2.pdf
Mark
https://wokingham.moderngov.co.uk/documents/s81089/Capital%20Monitoring%20202526%20-%20Q2.pdf
That WBC proposal was for work to start in September 2025. And now its start has been announced - first step, close it from October to April 2026.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/UKWOKBC/bulletins/426de88
Station footbridge to shut for essential maintenance
We’ll be closing the footbridge near Earley station, which crosses the railway and A3290, for refurbishment from mid-October until next April.
We’ll let you know the exact start dates nearer the time.
While there are no safety concerns, we need to refurbish parts of this early 1970s structure to maintain its condition and extend its working life.
Once we start, we’ll be shutting the station car park for use as a site compound, though the parcel collection and charity drop boxes will remain accessible.
We’ll be replacing the footbridge ramps to the same dimensions as before, but with steel steps instead of concrete ones on either side.
We’ll be closing the footbridge near Earley station, which crosses the railway and A3290, for refurbishment from mid-October until next April.
We’ll let you know the exact start dates nearer the time.
While there are no safety concerns, we need to refurbish parts of this early 1970s structure to maintain its condition and extend its working life.
Once we start, we’ll be shutting the station car park for use as a site compound, though the parcel collection and charity drop boxes will remain accessible.
We’ll be replacing the footbridge ramps to the same dimensions as before, but with steel steps instead of concrete ones on either side.
You'll notice they have chosen their words a bit better this time, ambiguitywise. As to Network Rail's little bridge, I've not noticed any works or news there but I've just seen something that implies they did the work a few weeks ago. I can't confirm that from the EAS because I have not worked out where it is.
| Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379433/32456/31] Posted by GBM at 16:09, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
That was my thoughts, what do we use D cells for now?
OS in post CFN.
Our bathroom portable radio uses D x 2...........OS in post CFN.
Posted in error as past tense, but it is still in daily usage.
| Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR) In "Across the West" [379432/28982/26] Posted by Kernow Otter at 14:30, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo
And meanwhile in the North, a fleet of new trains to serve the PM's constituency amongst others. No mention of the new stock being privately owned however.
Two tier transport?
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379431/32458/1] Posted by Kernow Otter at 14:25, 11th September 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, GBM | ![]() |
22 on that list. Serving in the Royal Navy helped......
| Re: How well travelled are YOU? In "Introductions and chat" [379430/32458/1] Posted by LiskeardRich at 14:05, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
I tried to find stats for travellers from the UK rather than USA - and I found holiday vacation countries only. Other data offered from behind a firewall but way out of budget. Whilst the majority of journeys are for vacation, https://www.finder.com/uk/credit-cards/outbound-tourism-statistics




I’ve done 6/10 on that list in the last 3 years.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [379429/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:01, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
Journeycheck now saying disruption is likely to last until next Tuesday (15th).
Probably best not to let TG see that.
Oops - too late!

Now (03:00 on 10th) saying "until end of 11th"
Noting some peak hour long distance trains have added calls today at one or two of Slough, Maidenhead and Twyford, and that does seem logical. Hope they have the capacity.
We're now back to close of play on the 14th......
London Paddington
Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.
| Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026 In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379428/32479/24] Posted by eightonedee at 13:13, 11th September 2026 Already liked by GBM | ![]() |
You invest to get a return, but GWR see no return in the South West but are prepared to ride on the backs of others. Taxpayers, Stakeholders, third parties.
Some more passing loops and increased services would give them more passengers, more revenue
Some more passing loops and increased services would give them more passengers, more revenue
But surely the infrastructure elements are the responsibility of Network Rail, and funded by them (ie. us!). Coincidentally, today is the 25th anniversary of the announcement of the intention to take Railtrack back into public ownership on "a very good day to get out anything we want to bury".
The current rolling stock crisis has also been precipitated by the Government's order to GWR to reduce its leasing commitments, resulting in the cancellation of the class 769 programme (although may simply have been a trial run for the current problems with the 175s) and reduction in its fleet, and the Government decision to curtail the Oxford and Bristol electrification, so that GWR have ended up operating a reduced Electrostar fleet and retaining Turbos in the Thames Valley.
There's still every reason to criticise aspects of GWR's performance, notably the inconsistent standard of passenger information as constantly highlighted by posts on this forum. But we do need to bear in mind that First Group/GWR primarily have (and have had since 2022) a time limited management contract. It is unreasonable to expect any substantial capital investment from them, and its not their responsibility when it comes to track and fixed infrastructure. Hopefully when GBR is one unified body this might help, but comments such as DfT waiting to see the outcome of the procurement of rolling stock in Scotland before undertaking further procurement, and that the new Trans-Pennine battery trains are due to enter service in 2034 do not give hope of an early improvement.
| Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR) In "Across the West" [379427/28982/26] Posted by IndustryInsider at 11:30, 11th September 2026 Already liked by GBM | ![]() |
There's a section on the class 175 problems in this week's Green Signals podcast and weekly You Tube video, including an interview with Barry Milsom of GWR. See https://www.greensignals.org/podcast/more-diversions-gwrs-plan-to-keep-customers-on-trains-over-christmas/ at 14.55
(it also includes a piece on diversions during the up-coming blockades between Reading and Paddington that members will find of interest).
(it also includes a piece on diversions during the up-coming blockades between Reading and Paddington that members will find of interest).
Yes, a good interview - well worth a listen...as is the previous section on the GWR diversions.
| Switzerland: Five dead and dozens injured in coach crash in Alps - 10 Sep 2026 In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [379426/32483/52] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 11:11, 11th September 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC:
Five dead and dozens injured in coach crash in Swiss Alps

The coach was carrying dozens of Dutch nationals - Image © Jon Duschletta/EPA/Shutterstock
Five people have died and dozens are injured after a tourist coach crashed in the south-eastern Swiss Alps, police say.
The Dutch tour bus hit a safety barrier in a roadworks area, left the road and overturned between Susch and Zernez in the Graubünden region late on Thursday afternoon.
Swiss police said on Friday that the deceased had not yet been identified.
They added that the other 40 people on board the coach - whose injuries ranged from serious to minor - had been transported to hospitals by rescue helicopters and ambulance crews.
The coach reportedly left the Netherlands on Monday and was on a day trip to Switzerland from Austria when the crash happened.
Dutch Prime Minister Rob Jetten said his thoughts were everyone involved, and King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima said their hearts went out to everyone affected by "this great tragedy".
Swiss President Guy Parmelin posted on X that he was "deeply shocked" by the incident and offered his "sincere condolences" to the families of the victims.

A photo released by police showed the coach lying on its side beside a narrow country road - Image © Graubünden cantonal police
Graubünden cantonal police said three people were seriously injured in the incident.
It added that seven helicopters from both Switzerland and Austria had been involved in the rescue effort, alongside fire departments and the Plaiv road rescue service.
Graubünden's public prosecutor's office and police are investigating the circumstances that led to the crash.
Zernez is the entry point for visitors to the Swiss National Park, a vast Alpine reserve stretching more than 100 sq km (40 sq miles) across the mountainous Engadine valley.

The coach was carrying dozens of Dutch nationals - Image © Jon Duschletta/EPA/Shutterstock
Five people have died and dozens are injured after a tourist coach crashed in the south-eastern Swiss Alps, police say.
The Dutch tour bus hit a safety barrier in a roadworks area, left the road and overturned between Susch and Zernez in the Graubünden region late on Thursday afternoon.
Swiss police said on Friday that the deceased had not yet been identified.
They added that the other 40 people on board the coach - whose injuries ranged from serious to minor - had been transported to hospitals by rescue helicopters and ambulance crews.
The coach reportedly left the Netherlands on Monday and was on a day trip to Switzerland from Austria when the crash happened.
Dutch Prime Minister Rob Jetten said his thoughts were everyone involved, and King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima said their hearts went out to everyone affected by "this great tragedy".
Swiss President Guy Parmelin posted on X that he was "deeply shocked" by the incident and offered his "sincere condolences" to the families of the victims.

A photo released by police showed the coach lying on its side beside a narrow country road - Image © Graubünden cantonal police
Graubünden cantonal police said three people were seriously injured in the incident.
It added that seven helicopters from both Switzerland and Austria had been involved in the rescue effort, alongside fire departments and the Plaiv road rescue service.
Graubünden's public prosecutor's office and police are investigating the circumstances that led to the crash.
Zernez is the entry point for visitors to the Swiss National Park, a vast Alpine reserve stretching more than 100 sq km (40 sq miles) across the mountainous Engadine valley.
You invest to get a return, but GWR see no return in the South West but are prepared to ride on the backs of others. Taxpayers, Stakeholders, third parties.
But then that is the very way the system has been designed to work.
* The operator has been able to invest his own money if he wishes and can see a return to him on that. And we've seen that done on longer franchises such as Chiltern in its earlier phases.
* The local authority or wider taxpayers can invest is they get a return in a more buoyant local economy - more local business, more local tax, etc
* Third parties can invest if they get a business return - for example a developer building a new station at Bristol Brabazon or Cranbrook to be able to turn open countryside or a derelict site into more valuable land for houses.
I've seen it suggested in Devon / current topic that the movement of 6th form education from across North Devon into Exeter has lead to a rather significant rise in train (wannabe) or bus (oops!) traffic from Barnstaple, and because that's where the rise came from, the funding should come from the educators. Who knows - perhaps the 175 program that's not (it seems) gone as planned HAS been partly funded by the education department?














