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Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379457/32458/1]
Posted by grahame at 09:43, 12th September 2026
 
22 out of 23 of our voters have travelled more that 75% of American residents if you measure that by countries visited - which perhaps goes to show how different we all are, how skewed our readership is, or how you can show just about anything with stats if you put your mind to it.

Original post about the USA residents aside, the poll has confirmed what a bunch of well travelled folks we are on the Coffee Shop.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [379456/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:40, 12th September 2026
 
We're now back to close of play on the 14th......

London Paddington

Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.


And that projection remains:

Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.

Our cancellation / disruption map at the head of the Coffee Shop pages looks/ed welcomely clear of the great grey splurge of issues from Paddington this morning, but my research has confirmed that's because the changes are no longer short notice ones, but have been entered into systems so that they've been known about and planned a number of days ahead.

Good to know well ahead - customers can have been alerted and have planned to cope with the disruption, which at instigation couldn't have been fairly blamed on the rail industry, though ongoing it does feel as if recovery from incidents takes far, far longer than it use to.   Not unique to GWR, or rail - I note that the FT headlines this morning suggest that the air traffic control meltdown this week and the l-o-n-g recovery that took was due to a military aircraft entering a spurious data flight path into the system.   Probably the right thing to do an "oh sh*t" when wrong / random data turns up - safety first - but the recovery time from events has one wondering.

So are all GWR/TfL systems/timetables fully updated?

National Rail's latest update (0701 this morning) states "Disruption is expected to continue until further notice".

Have all impacted customers been alerted as you suggest?

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379455/32479/24]
Posted by grahame at 09:10, 12th September 2026
 
Railtrack seem to spend all their money on renewals, but if someone pays them to build a passing loop such as Newquay branch they will do it. If GWR/First Group paid them (it's what shareholders money is for) they would build. We might have had more loops in Devon, Cornwall, and Somerset.

GWR are not interested in the Southwest unless dragged screaming and kicking by third parties. It's just a loss l(fee)ader for the main line.

Shareholder's money (and that's, perhaps, your and my pension pots) is there son that it can be an engine for the company to invest and provide more money over time as value and dividends.  Where there's only a short time before a cutoff after which the gains from investment won't come to your shareholders then, yes, the company won't build. 

The temptation must be to use their resources (including income from operation) to build for the longer term, which perhaps means vibrant markets from London to Carmarthen (from Paddington), Stirling (from Euston) and Hull and Edinburgh (from Kings Cross) where there is potential for significant ongoing healthy income without the need to support loss-leader service and trains line the - perhaps - 04:57 Plymouth to Gunnislake.

There's a further temptation when doing stuff that will last longer term for others to do so at as high a price as can be reasonably charged to increase the shareholder benefit, and where there's a resource shortage to auction it to the highest bidder.  That's the way it's designed to work, and that ripples down too so that other suppliers *to* GWR can also charge a market rate for scarcity resources, and not what it really costs.

As Webmaster, I should point out these are my own musings and do not suggest a forum's view on the system.



Now - take a local or regional train from ... Par to Newquay, Bristol to Portishead, Swindon to Westbury, Exeter to Barnstaple or any other non-intercity route.   
* It's shorter than a London to Plymouth train so it needs more staff per passenger carried
* The fares per mile are typically regulated lower
* The miles are covered slower, so the "take" per seat per minute is less, even at the same mileage route
* The route is shorter so there are more turn around times when the train is idle
* They are commuter-y routes with a much sharper peak than the intercity stuff
* Flows tend to be one way in the morning and back in the evening - no revenue one way even in peaks

Many of these may not be very significant on some lines, but compounded that make an order of magnitude difference.

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379454/32456/31]
Posted by Mark A at 08:37, 12th September 2026
 
With torches from a previous era, a question is: 'Can I replace the bulb in this with a quality LED'? If the answer is 'Yes', this is rewarding (and even more so if a warm white LED is available, but perhaps that's just me.)

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [379453/31163/26]
Posted by grahame at 08:37, 12th September 2026
 
We're now back to close of play on the 14th......

London Paddington

Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.


And that projection remains:

Cancellations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled or revised. Twyford, Maidenhead and Slough will not be served. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.

Our cancellation / disruption map at the head of the Coffee Shop pages looks/ed welcomely clear of the great grey splurge of issues from Paddington this morning, but my research has confirmed that's because the changes are no longer short notice ones, but have been entered into systems so that they've been known about and planned a number of days ahead.

Good to know well ahead - customers can have been alerted and have planned to cope with the disruption, which at instigation couldn't have been fairly blamed on the rail industry, though ongoing it does feel as if recovery from incidents takes far, far longer than it use to.   Not unique to GWR, or rail - I note that the FT headlines this morning suggest that the air traffic control meltdown this week and the l-o-n-g recovery that took was due to a military aircraft entering a spurious data flight path into the system.   Probably the right thing to do an "oh sh*t" when wrong / random data turns up - safety first - but the recovery time from events has one wondering.

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379452/32479/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 08:25, 12th September 2026
 
Railtrack seem to spend all their money on renewals, but if someone pays them to build a passing loop such as Newquay branch they will do it. If GWR/First Group paid them (it's what shareholders money is for) they would build. We might have had more loops in Devon, Cornwall, and Somerset.

GWR are not interested in the Southwest unless dragged screaming and kicking by third parties. It's just a loss l(fee)ader for the main line.

Re: New Oxford - Bristol direct service, ongoing developments and discussion
In "Oxford, Didcot and Reading from the West" [379451/28355/22]
Posted by grahame at 08:23, 12th September 2026
 
Perhaps an unfair snapshot - but half the service cancelled today.  Yes, journey can be made with a changes at Didcot, but no customer advice to let people know that.   

A few weeks on - and I have noted occasional distinctive red streaks on our cancellation may - so I took a look at the record via recent time trains for the last 8 week.

Whilst it's far from perfect, it's pretty much what GWR's been achieving elsewhere.  I also noted an occasion that it ran with a 166 rather than an IET which I would see as a sensible alternative at times something goes very wrong.


Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379450/32456/31]
Posted by GBM at 08:00, 12th September 2026
 
I used to have a very large 'Maglight' metal torch, which took at least three, possibly four, D cell batteries.

It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole. 

Thank you for reminding me.
We still have a large Maglite in the cupboard.  Tried it a minute ago, and still lights up, but not used it for years!

Blackpool trams don't go to Fleetwood any more
In "Railway History and related topics" [379449/32484/55]
Posted by infoman at 03:40, 12th September 2026
 
On a recent visit to the area, trams terminate at Fisherman wharf,
 due to possible collapse of a building on the tram route.
Bus excepts tram tickets to take passengers to Fleetwood ferry from Fisherman wharf
The rail link to Blackpool North train station is now operational. 
Some trams go from Starr gate to the station and then return
Others go from Fishermans wharf to the train station and return
Some services travel Starr gate to Fisherman wharf and don't go to the train station

What I did find surprising that their are no departure LED displays on any of the tram tops.
I can't believe that all the trams run to time and the planned time table.

The other thing that surprised me is that their are no ticket issuing machines on the tram stops.
We will always have an element that want to avoid the fare,so why not get the money out of those who WANT TO PAY,first.
So the ticket collector can concentrate on those who are trying to avoid paying.
I presume that the ticket collectors machines have developed faults during the course of shift/s. 

Re: Project Churchward - future regional fleet for the West, new rolling stock to replace DMUs
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [379448/27482/40]
Posted by Surrey 455 at 00:17, 12th September 2026
 
Nothing yet for GWR, but seems new train orders for UK have started again. 

I don't think there has been any non Open Access orders since 2019 (except the 10 extra Elizabeth line trains and the 10 CAF class 387s for LNER)

29 x 5car trains for Transpennine have just been announced (but not until 2034) from Alstom at Derby

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo


Do you mean class 897? The 387s (made by Bombardier) are in service with GWR and parts of GTR.

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379447/32458/1]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:39, 11th September 2026
 
In my experience, in a previous job delivering groceries to them, the usually Chinese students were always unfailingly polite. A credit to their upbringing. 

Clearly exemplary.

Especially as they'd been landed with a house built on birdshit whereas others were looking out over Windsor Castle, the Long walk and the Great Park.

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379446/32456/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:08, 11th September 2026
 
I used to have a very large 'Maglight' metal torch, which took at least three, possibly four, D cell batteries.

It was like lugging around a piece of scaffolding pole. 

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379445/32458/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:54, 11th September 2026
 
In my experience, in a previous job delivering groceries to them, the usually Chinese students were always unfailingly polite. A credit to their upbringing. 

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379444/32458/1]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:48, 11th September 2026
 
If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!

It sometimes feel that most of them visit Bath ... and Windsor and Stonehenge, many of them visiting two or even three of those in a day.  Away from the "Honey Pots" there are so many places worthy of so many more visitors from USA residents than they get.   

To be fair, they tend to be very pleasant in Windsor, like the Japanese. Probably pleased to be away from the madness of London for a few hours!

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [379443/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 20:55, 11th September 2026
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

Facilities on the 20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
Will be formed of 2 coaches instead of 3.

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379442/32458/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:53, 11th September 2026
 
I shall choose my words carefully here, posting my personal view - not the official view from the Coffee Shop forum.

Any visitors from the USA are very welcome to visit one of our local attractions near Nailsea -Tyntesfield (National Trust).

Tyntesfield, a Victorian Gothic mansion with a sprawling estate, was built up on the fortune made by the first Baron, Lord Wraxall, based on shit. Bird shit, in his case, but Donald Trump could feel at home here.

(Sorry - did I say that out loud?  )

CfN. 


Re: West Wilts Rail User Group - 16th September 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [379441/32313/34]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:05, 11th September 2026
Already liked by grahame
 
Posting here, simply to 'bump' this topic / event.

It looks to be a very interesting talk from the guest speaker, and the venue is very convenient for train travellers to and from Trowbridge - the meeting times are tailored accordingly.

CfN. 

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [379440/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 18:53, 11th September 2026
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 has been delayed at Gloucester and is now 12 minutes late.
This is due to congestion.

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379439/32458/1]
Posted by grahame at 18:50, 11th September 2026
 
If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!

It sometimes feel that most of them visit Bath ... and Windsor and Stonehenge, many of them visiting two or even three of those in a day.  Away from the "Honey Pots" there are so many places worthy of so many more visitors from USA residents than they get.   

Re: Train named after Cornish 9/11 hero Rick Rescorla
In "Who's who on Western railways" [379438/21257/2]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:31, 11th September 2026
Already liked by FarWestJohn
 
From the BBC:

Poppies made of scallop shells honour 9/11 victims


Cornish-born Rick Rescorla helped get people out of the World Trade Center's South Tower during the 9/11 attacks - Image © PA Media

A special tribute has been made to remember the victims of the 9/11 attacks - including a Cornishman whose actions are credited with helping save lives.

The Veterans Charity invited people to Hayle, Cornwall, to be part of a "poppy production line" using about 6,000 scallop shells to create 2,977 poppies - one for each of the victims of the attacks that happened 25 years ago on Friday.

Among the victims was Rick Rescorla, originally from Hayle, who was a security worker who managed to get people to safety after planes crashed into the World Trade Center.

Iain Henderson, trustee of The Veterans Charity, said the project was a "fitting tribute" to Rescorla and everyone else who died.

(BBC article continues)


Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379437/28982/26]
Posted by bradshaw at 18:01, 11th September 2026
 
Funded by Rock Rail with Alstom also having maintenance contract.
https://mediacentre.tpexpress.co.uk/news/tpe-unveils-gbp-1bn-battery-train-fleet-to-transform-rail-travel-across-the-north

Re: Ryanair - routes, schedules, incidents and issues (merged posts)
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [379436/29076/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:51, 11th September 2026
 
From the BBC:

Ryanair boss O'Leary defends 'high-fare rapists' airlines remarks

Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has refused to apologise to a rape crisis centre which criticised him for describing rival airlines as "high-fare rapists".

Speaking to journalists, O'Leary said some people were "desperate to get to Ryanair's low fares because they can't afford to fly with the high-fare rapists around Europe".

O'Leary doubled-down on his choice of words when asked about them at the time, and later refused to apologise when the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre (DRCC) wrote to him asking for apology, in a letter seen by the BBC.

Ireland's deputy premier Simon Harris said it was "clearly an inappropriate use of language" and that O'Leary "should have moved to rectify it".

Transport Secretary Heidi Alexander told UK radio outlet LBC that victims of rape are "not going to be rushing to book tickets with him, let's be honest".

O'Leary made the comments on Thursday while talking to journalists ahead of Ryanair's yearly meeting with shareholders.

Asked by a reporter from the Press Association whether the language was appropriate, he said: "Absolutely."

"British Airways, Lufthansa, and everybody else's high fares, I'll happily offend them on a regular basis," he added.

Asked whether it would offend sexual assault victims, he said rape was "a terrible crime".

Following O'Leary's comments, the DRCC's chief executive Rachel Morrogh wrote to O'Leary accusing him of trying to get a headline with his comments.  She said the DRCC had received calls from rape victims who were "upset and distressed because of what you said".

She offered O'Leary training on the impact of sexual violence and urged him to apologise.  "I can't imagine you would ever use the term so flippantly again if you truly understood [what] it was like to survive rape," she wrote.

In response, O'Leary said: "I am quite clear that no remarks of mine could possibly trivialise the heinous crime of rape."  He added that as he had not "trivialised the heinous crime of rape" he would "not be issuing any apology or accepting your offer of training".

It is not the first time O'Leary has offended people while talking about his business.  In 2004, he reportedly called the owners of Stansted Airport "a bunch of overcharging rapists" in a row over airport charges.

He has also previously called some of his own staff "lazy bastards" and once said to passengers looking for a refund "we don't want to hear your sob stories".

In June, he said the airline would "reluctantly" stop charging parents to sit next to children after a watchdog investigation was opened, but insisted its previous policy complied with laws.


Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379435/32458/1]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 16:37, 11th September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Posting this here somewhat lightheartedly:

Of those 3.9 million US residents who visited the UK, I reckon about 3 million of them have Bath as their destination.  Some of them are a pain in the proverbial, milling about in huge groups and generally getting in the way.

However, I did have a great chat with two older American men in a traditional pub in Bath, many years ago.  They had ventured out from their hotel to sample an old English pub.  We fell into conversation about licensing laws, as they were initially puzzled by the particular wording of the UK signs on the bar, asking for ID.

CfN. 


If you think they all head to Bath, try visiting Windsor sometime!

Re: Earley Station, Reading - facilities, footbridge, improvements
In "South Western services" [379434/31384/42]
Posted by stuving at 16:20, 11th September 2026
 
The hairier Earley footbridge features in this document from Wokingham Borough Council. A repair to it is in the pipeline, to extend its life by 15 years. A list of risks includes that once repairs are under way, elements of the bridge may be found to be in worse condition than previously thought.

Mark

https://wokingham.moderngov.co.uk/documents/s81089/Capital%20Monitoring%20202526%20-%20Q2.pdf

That WBC proposal was for work to start in September 2025. And now its start has been announced - first step, close it from October to April 2026.
https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/UKWOKBC/bulletins/426de88
Station footbridge to shut for essential maintenance

We’ll be closing the footbridge near Earley station, which crosses the railway and A3290, for refurbishment from mid-October until next April.

We’ll let you know the exact start dates nearer the time.

While there are no safety concerns, we need to refurbish parts of this early 1970s structure to maintain its condition and extend its working life.

Once we start, we’ll be shutting the station car park for use as a site compound, though the parcel collection and charity drop boxes will remain accessible.

We’ll be replacing the footbridge ramps to the same dimensions as before, but with steel steps instead of concrete ones on either side.

You'll notice they have chosen their words a bit better this time, ambiguitywise. As to Network Rail's little bridge, I've not noticed any works or news there but I've just seen something that implies they did the work a few weeks ago. I can't confirm that from the EAS because I have not worked out where it is.

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379433/32456/31]
Posted by GBM at 16:09, 11th September 2026
 
That was my thoughts, what do we use D cells for now?
OS in post CFN.
Our bathroom portable radio uses D x 2...........
Posted in error as past tense, but it is still in daily usage.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379432/28982/26]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 14:30, 11th September 2026
 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo

And meanwhile in the North, a fleet of new trains to serve the PM's constituency amongst others.  No mention of the new stock being privately owned however.

Two tier transport?

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379431/32458/1]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 14:25, 11th September 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, GBM
 
22 on that list.  Serving in the Royal Navy helped......

Re: How well travelled are YOU?
In "Introductions and chat" [379430/32458/1]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 14:05, 11th September 2026
 
I tried to find stats for travellers from the UK rather than USA - and I found holiday vacation countries only.  Other data offered from behind a firewall but way out of budget.  Whilst the majority of journeys are for vacation,  https://www.finder.com/uk/credit-cards/outbound-tourism-statistics




I’ve done 6/10 on that list in the last 3 years.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [379429/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:01, 11th September 2026
 
Journeycheck now saying disruption is likely to last until next Tuesday (15th).

Probably best not to let TG see that.

Oops - too late! 


Now (03:00 on 10th) saying "until end of 11th"

Noting some peak hour long distance trains have added calls today at one or two of Slough, Maidenhead and Twyford, and that does seem logical.  Hope they have the capacity.

We're now back to close of play on the 14th......

London Paddington

Due to vandalism of railway equipment between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.

Train services running to and from these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 14/09/26.

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379428/32479/24]
Posted by eightonedee at 13:13, 11th September 2026
Already liked by GBM
 
You invest to get a return, but GWR see no return in the South West but are prepared to ride on the backs of others. Taxpayers, Stakeholders, third parties.

Some more passing loops and increased services would give them more passengers, more revenue

But surely the infrastructure elements are the responsibility of Network Rail, and funded by them (ie. us!). Coincidentally, today is the 25th anniversary of the announcement of the intention to take Railtrack back into public ownership on "a very good day to get out anything we want to bury".

The current rolling stock crisis has also been precipitated by the Government's order to GWR to reduce its leasing commitments, resulting in the cancellation of the class 769 programme (although may simply have been a trial run for the current problems with the 175s) and reduction in its fleet, and the Government decision to curtail the Oxford and Bristol electrification, so that GWR have ended up operating a reduced Electrostar fleet and retaining Turbos in the Thames Valley.

There's still every reason to criticise aspects of GWR's performance, notably the inconsistent standard of passenger information as constantly highlighted by posts on this forum. But we do need to bear in mind that First Group/GWR primarily have (and have had since 2022) a time limited management contract. It is unreasonable to expect any substantial capital investment from them, and its not their responsibility when it comes to track and fixed infrastructure. Hopefully when GBR is one unified body this might help, but comments such as DfT waiting to see the outcome of the procurement of rolling stock in Scotland before undertaking further procurement, and that the new Trans-Pennine battery trains are due to enter service in 2034 do not give hope of an early improvement.

 
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