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18.5.2025 (Sunday) 12:10 - All running AOK
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Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361589/29726/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 09:44, 18th May 2025
 
18:10 Castle Cary to Swindon due 19:34

18:10 Castle Cary to Swindon due 19:34 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Castle Cary, Bruton and Frome.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

With crew shortages all over the place, so far the Westbury to Swindon service is doing far better than most today, having said which even a single cancellation on that line leaves a huge gap.   I have to personally wonder at why, after so many years, crew shortages seem to be almost routine and look to the management and direction (from inside and outside the TOC) for having failed to avoid such issues being so frequent, or to cynically have passed them off as an acceptable lack-of-service level.

Succinctly, because those at the upper reaches of GWR tend to be Managers rather than Leaders, and there are few better examples than this long running issue.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [361588/18719/26]
Posted by Timmer at 08:58, 18th May 2025
 
You missed this one TG:

13:35 Newquay to London Paddington due 18:27
13:35 Newquay to London Paddington due 18:27 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Totnes, Newton Abbot, Exeter St Davids, Tiverton Parkway, Taunton, Reading and London Paddington.
Hence my concern early because the train before also only gets as far a Plymouth. Again, let’s hope for reinstatements or it’s going to be tough going for those heading back to London later.


Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [361586/18719/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:09, 18th May 2025
 
All week people have been bewailing the loss of the Penzance - Aberdeen service.

Just getting out of Devon/Cornwall from that point of origin will be a struggle today.


10:10 Penzance to London Paddington due 15:27
10:10 Penzance to London Paddington due 15:27 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Penzance, St Erth, Camborne, Redruth, Truro, St Austell, Par, Lostwithiel, Bodmin Parkway and Liskeard.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

12:18 Penzance to London Paddington due 17:30
12:18 Penzance to London Paddington due 17:30 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Totnes, Newton Abbot, Exeter St Davids, Tiverton Parkway, Taunton, Reading and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

15:18 Penzance to London Paddington due 20:27
15:18 Penzance to London Paddington due 20:27 will be terminated at Exeter St Davids.
It will no longer call at Tiverton Parkway, Taunton, Reading and London Paddington.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [361585/18719/26]
Posted by Timmer at 07:49, 18th May 2025
 
Not a great start to the new timetable is it. Let’s hope there are some reinstatements later in the day, particularly for up services from the SW as there are some nasty gaps between trains.

Cardiff-Portsmouth isn’t look great either, particularly south of Westbury later in the day.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [361584/18719/26]
Posted by Fourbee at 07:43, 18th May 2025
 
0612 Gatwick Airport to Reading terminated short at Redhill (it's DOO between Gatwick and Redhill) then headed to Reading ECS, so it may be safe to assume it's the lack of a guard for that one which was a 3-car. The next train, the 0759 is a 2-car. Train faults/crew shortage seem to be creeping in regularly/daily on the North Downs' Line. With a relatively frequent frequency compared to some, may not be a problem. Not sure I'd be relying on it if I had a flight to catch, however.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [361583/18719/26]
Posted by GBM at 07:37, 18th May 2025
 
.......judging by today's map & JourneyCheck,  it would seem that GWR BBQ season is underway......
Depressing 

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [361582/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 07:12, 18th May 2025
Already liked by Mark A
 
18:10 Castle Cary to Swindon due 19:34

18:10 Castle Cary to Swindon due 19:34 will be started from Westbury.
It will no longer call at Castle Cary, Bruton and Frome.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

With crew shortages all over the place, so far the Westbury to Swindon service is doing far better than most today, having said which even a single cancellation on that line leaves a huge gap.   I have to personally wonder at why, after so many years, crew shortages seem to be almost routine and look to the management and direction (from inside and outside the TOC) for having failed to avoid such issues being so frequent, or to cynically have passed them off as an acceptable lack-of-service level.

Re: Shortage of train crews on Great Western Railway - ongoing discussion
In "Across the West" [361581/18719/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:41, 18th May 2025
 
.......judging by today's map & JourneyCheck,  it would seem that GWR BBQ season is underway......

Re: Where am I today, 17.5.2025
In "The Lighter Side" [361580/30279/30]
Posted by grahame at 05:52, 18th May 2025
 
Harlington Haven and Amsterdam Centraal - both, yes.  For the afternoon, I took the train out from Amsterdam to Leeuwarden then a semi-random regional branch line which I lucked out on.  A part I have never seen / looked at before.    The flat picture with the cows is in this area - I don't have an exact locations.  The final picture is at Zwolle where I changed trains - would not expect anyone to have identified that.  Onwards today ...

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361579/30273/30]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 00:35, 18th May 2025
 
Taunton 5and13 Cheddon Fitzpaine ?...

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361578/30273/30]
Posted by JayMac at 00:08, 18th May 2025
 
The invisible river is the Tone.
So Somerset in or about the Taunton area.

Yes. Finn wasn't far from his new home in Taunton.

Now. Where is the crossing at what is it called?

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361577/30273/30]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 00:06, 18th May 2025
 
The invisible river is the Tone.
So Somerset in or about the Taunton area.

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361576/30273/30]
Posted by JayMac at 22:47, 17th May 2025
 
Let's see now.  Is it one of those rivers that goes by the name of Avon?

Not a River Avon.

It's a river with a different style or timbre.

Re: Where am I today, 17.5.2025
In "The Lighter Side" [361575/30279/30]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:54, 17th May 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
I have inside information, so I can't comment - other than to say that none of them are Taunton.

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361574/30273/30]
Posted by johnneyw at 20:53, 17th May 2025
 
Let's see now.  Is it one of those rivers that goes by the name of Avon?

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [361573/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:37, 17th May 2025
 
From National Rail, apparently the problem is at Southall.

Route(s) affected
between London Paddington and Heathrow Terminals / Reading

Description
Lines have now reopened following a safety inspection of the track between London Paddington and Heathrow Terminals / Reading. As normal service resumes, trains may still be cancelled, delayed by up to 10 minutes or revised.

Disruption is expected until 21:15.

Re: Cornish delays
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [361572/28556/25]
Posted by ChrisB at 20:09, 17th May 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
Train failed in platform preventing other services from leaving the depot until the failure was moved.

Re: Where am I today, 17.5.2025
In "The Lighter Side" [361571/30279/30]
Posted by Clan Line at 18:54, 17th May 2025
 
1. Harlingen

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361570/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 18:13, 17th May 2025
 
The A return working has now turned up, though I imagine there's been some juggling of pieces of work:
20:20 Hereford to London Paddington due 23:38 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/05/2025 17:36

23:05 Reading to London Paddington due 23:38
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 23:05 Reading to London Paddington due 23:38.
Last Updated:17/05/2025 17:38

18:45 : Reading - Paddington leg added (I hadn't noticed this before).
05:15 : spelling

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361569/29711/14]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 18:01, 17th May 2025
 
As you say, a journey of that length with three pieces of work is best described as "vulnerable".  But I would have expected the software to flag it as a potential issue. Alas, I'd fear that the report of the scheduling efficiency statistics wouldn't notice the shortness of the pieces - they'd be lost in any overall average.

Without checking I don't know for sure, but it's quite possible the TM assists on the way back, or that a Worcester based TM booking on standby could work it back.

Re: Where am I today, 17.5.2025
In "The Lighter Side" [361568/30279/30]
Posted by stuving at 18:01, 17th May 2025
Already liked by GBM
 
2 is, unavoidably, Amsterdam Centraal. Seen across a rather damp bus station.

Re: Where am I today, 17.5.2025
In "The Lighter Side" [361567/30279/30]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 17:58, 17th May 2025
Already liked by johnneyw, Red Squirrel, Western Pathfinder, eightonedee
 
Number 4 looks like the Isle Of Wight, so I'll have a guess at Cowes. 

Re: Where was Finn today, 15th May 2025?
In "The Lighter Side" [361566/30273/30]
Posted by JayMac at 16:25, 17th May 2025
 
Okay, I guess it's a tough one.

Clue: There's a river behind the IET.

Where am I today, 17.5.2025
In "The Lighter Side" [361565/30279/30]
Posted by grahame at 15:51, 17th May 2025
 
Enjoying the simple architecture, the quiet places and the magnificent mountains as I took the train to the end of the line.  Wait - that is not Lymington! Anyone able to place any of those pictures?

1.


2.


3.


4.




Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361564/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 14:50, 17th May 2025
 
As you say, a journey of that length with three pieces of work is best described as "vulnerable".  But I would have expected the software to flag it as a potential issue. Alas, I'd fear that the report of the scheduling efficiency statistics wouldn't notice the shortness of the pieces - they'd be lost in any overall average.

It's odd that it's only a one-way cancellation - does this duty not go back to Reading at some stage?

Re: Champion Reflections
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [361563/30259/47]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:26, 17th May 2025
Already liked by PhilWakely
 
There was a melee at Plymouth, ............ 

I must admit that I never knew trainspotting involved quite so much violence - are there "firms" in the same way that football clubs have hooligan gangs?

(West Ham's was the Inter City Firm after all!!!)

 

Well, it was at Plymouth - what more should you expect 

Can't argue with that! 

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361562/29711/14]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 14:08, 17th May 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Timmer, Andy E, Mark A
 
Though why any scheduling system would have three separate TMs (Paddington - Reading - Shrub Hill - Great Malvern) for a journey that is 2:22 long is beyond me.

Sadly that's what the computer churns out these days.  Works on paper, but not in practice as soon as anything goes wrong.  The powers that be, don't seem to get it unfortunately.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [361561/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 13:45, 17th May 2025
 
Saturday May 17

And after a good few days:

14:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 17:14 will be terminated at Reading.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:17/05/2025 13:00

17:00 Worcester Shrub Hill to Great Malvern due 17:14
An additional train service has been planned to operate as shown 17:00 Worcester Shrub Hill to Great Malvern due 17:14.
Last Updated:17/05/2025 13:02

Which implies that the shortage is of train managers, with the stock working empty from Reading to Shrub Hill.  Though why any scheduling system would have three separate TMs (Paddington - Reading - Shrub Hill - Great Malvern) for a journey that is 2:22 long is beyond me.

Re: Cornish delays
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [361560/28556/25]
Posted by GBM at 12:34, 17th May 2025
 
Several branch cancellations this morning (shown as  train failure).
St Ives, Falmouth and Par all lost their first runs.
5C52 0354 Penzance T.& R.S.M.D. to Penzance (which then forms three branch services) was 16 minutes late into Penzance.
Thereafter, a few departures from Pnz were late leaving (delayed by broken down train earlier).

Security - plane v train
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [361559/30278/5]
Posted by grahame at 12:13, 17th May 2025
 
BBC story of a journalist given the wrong boarding pass, not picked up by gate passes, and the kerfuffle that ensues. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3q5kqj80vo . Can't help contrasting it to the mode I'm in today - "I think I'll get on that train", find its time and put in in my planner.   Took the 10:00 out of Amsterdam which has a Berlin destination.  As Lisa is still in the Amsterdam relaxing for the day, I got off at Amersfoort and am now on a local train - oh, never mind to where, the point is the contrast in security.   Their has been a brief ticket check, but being asked for ID on these trips does happen but is rare as hen's teeth!

 
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