Suggestion noted: now done.

CfN. 

 
On the upside, venison as an option on the Pullman will make a nice change?

 
The fittings and furniture that are functional rather than plush or posh do strongly suggest a ferry.

 

Indeed, and now that we have come down up for breakfast, there are more clues

 
Coincidentally, there was a report on French TV news yesterday about the delays and damage caused by wild animals being hit by trains. Of course SNCF does have a lot of railway that's not fenced, plus a lot of wild boar - big, heavy, solid things. There were some numbers for collisions with boar and deer, which I can't remember exactly, but something like eight per day for France.

So they have been trying out fancy new beast scarers, which detect the animal and make a suitable noise at it, chosen to make it move away. The company involved, ElanRail, claim that their "Blue Sentinel" has reduced collisions by 90% year on year in the trial.

SNCF have also been fencing some lines; that may help with other kinds of trespasser of course.

 

At the risk of talking to myself, I have looked back for my data source and found various.  Seems that sheep are more of a problem in Wales, and people over the whole of GB:

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/deer-oh-deer-network-rail-unveils-the-countrys-worst-trespassing-criminals-embargoed-20-august-2024-0600

https://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/news/revealed-animals-who-top-the-lists-of-trespassers-on-the-track-on-wales-and-western-region


And Network Rail have even provided a graphic in case anyone doesn't know what a sheep, a swan or a badger is - though I would query their description as a "crime" which - to me - indicates a conscious intent to break the law.

 
But aren't we meant to be moving away from everything being London-centric? Let another part of the country (Manchester?) benefit from that growth, along with all the extra pollution and noise when we really should be trying to reduce air miles whether for passengers or freight.

I'm also struck by the PM's suggestion that it is a matter for London and Londoners, when planning more generally is reducing the ability for local people to have any influence.

 

Sadly, the most common animals hit by trains.  On something unrelated to this incident, I found some stats Network Rail has published a couple of years ago



"Deer" is shown as 350 (numerically) although without a time period for that number it's hard to judge.   Those makes with "*" are my guessed break down with gave an overall number of "others" and listed types under it in what looked like quantity order.  And, yes, I know swans are birds, but I think they separated them out.

 
Well, I saw a cloud formation once just like that, but can't remember where . . .

I suspect not a cruise ship because of the tacky window surround. A ferry somewhere?

 
Oh deer............

Cancellations to services at Castle Cary

Due to animals on the railway earlier today at Castle Cary the line towards Westbury is blocked.

Train services running through this station may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 12:00 17/10.

Customer Advice
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What has happened?
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A train struck a deer near Castle Cary and the line from Taunton to Westbury, Reading and London Paddington is blocked.

 

I was expecting to be pulled up on the "Spotsman" - the Scottish Mr Blobby ... even my spell checker baulked at it until I insisted ...

 

"THE" Flying Scotsman? - Oh dear you will be in trouble when someone sees that! 

 
Everybody knows it would drive growth, so get on and build the damn thing!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw0k07d2nj43o

 
I'm glad to see that that's a calm sea.

But I don't know where specifically it is, nor can I identify the vessel.

 

Operation Princess as was. Connections via cross-platform interchanges and an attempt made for fewer of those to be made at Birmingham and didn't it then collapse as, the intention having been to introduce the new pattern with the 4 or 5 carriage Voyagers, to then lengthen them in the future to meet demand, but Virgin then found they needed to have lengthened them beforehand? Oh, and ever since, we've been living in the aftermath.

 
Just one picture ...



Spolier - NOT in my home town to see the Flying Spotsman coming through, nor do I expect there to be any trains passing the window.

 

Yes - tracks have been slewed into the centre, and my understanding is that's common, if not routine, when lines are reduced from 2 to 1 tracks.  Not only does it allow for faster alignments around curves, but it also means that maintenance of the full width of cuttings and embankments can be reduced.  So a redoubling may not only involve slewing tracks back over, but also rebuilding earthworks (even before we start looking at bridges replaced or added in the intervening years.

 
At the dawn of the railway age, when journeys could be reduced from days to hours, it would not have been difficult to justify a scheme, even using today's framework.
However, now, time savings (the main component of benefit/cost calculations) are usually marginal.
For a scheme like Devizes Gateway, where access by car is likely to be a dominant feature, the other possible benefits such as accessibility, boosts to the local economy and local traffic reduction are also going to be hard to produce. Planning doesn't require a perfect scheme, but it jolly well ensure that the scheme has more benefit than cost - and preferably more value than other uses to which the capital could be put.
Maybe the waste comes from asking the same question many times and hoping for a different answer? 


The scheme's promoters have insisted it will have benefits to the local economy by bringing people to Devizes. I hope it would. But I also have to ask how a connecting bus service would be funded for the long-term, and how attractive a taxi service would be. I am not giving answers here, but one could look at, say, Aschurch for Tewkesbury, Bodmin and East Midlands Parkway to provide a guide to how successful the scheme would be in meeting the promoters' aims.


Low abstraction from Devizes' bus traffic is partly because much of the Devizes travel demand is to Swindon, Bath, Bristol. Starting off in the wrong direction for several miles might make rail a bit uncompetitive.


Predicting the future is liable to failure. Some people would be delighted to have their train to London, whether or not the other objectives have materialised. Some would benefit from house price changes; some would lose out. Maybe there would be a Lydeway Newtown, if recent ideas in planning guidance prevail.

Please don't misunderstand me. I would like to see new stations and more comprehensive public transport. I could find plenty to criticise about the scheme development and appraisal process. But it's not the fault of this process that construction costs have risen faster than CPI inflation, that the railway's running costs seem to have ballooned, or that the railway investment pipeline (RNEP) was pretty much dry of funds from its inception.


 

 

I remember VT running Swindon–Gloucester, and that the ambition was Paddington–Swindon–Gloucester–Birmingham. But I didn't remember them running Swindon–Gloucester–Birmingham.

However, having wasted spent the last half hour searching for it, the ever reliable Martin Loader has a photo of a VT 158 running Birmingham–Swindon in early 2002, and the working timetable for summer 2002 has several Swindon–Birmingham trains listed (pages 4-19). So yes, it looks like it did run... briefly.

 
The first set of decimal pattern coins in 1963 went as far as to include a decimal farthing - a small ¼p coin in aluminium. Inflation has already rendered that a useless concept by 1971, although Malta went decimal the following year with 2, 3 & 5 mil coins.

The Decimal Currency Board was completely against retaining the sixpence as 2½p but was overruled by politicians. Their argument that it would disappear from common circulation anyway pretty quickly was pretty much right. The last time I received one in change was as late as 1976 but it was accompanied by a ½p to make 3p. It was unusual enough to be memorable.

 
I'm afraid that John D has rather hit the proverbial nail on the head. Having said that, if Wiltshire Council could include promoting a station for Devizes as part of its transport infrastructure policy in the up-coming new Local Plan, and ensured that funding it and associated access infrastructure was included in the next revision of the reg 123 list of projects to be funded by Community Infrastructure Levy then it might help move things on.

BTW - Is it time to change the title of this thread? It's now over 60 years since the Devizes branch closed. Perhaps "Devizes wait since 1966..." ?

 
Not flown since mid 90s so guess I'm not the target audience either.

 

Would it make sense?  Swindon to Birmingham should be hourly from next may with a change at Oxford.  A direct train via Cheltenham is unlikely to be much quicker.

I’m not convinced there’s any significant market for that flow, or the others it would serve, to justify an entirely new service.

Did it?  I know it was talked about, but didn’t realise it actually ran?

 
The distant signal below the righthand bracket signal in photo 2 dates that photo to post 1949 and probably pre-1955.

 

The British planning system requires so much on surrounding land and effects.

Yes building station isn't difficult, but the planning will spill over.

Highways will want a big super safe junction into station, better than most existing turnings on A road because it is new.
The bus company won't support it unless station, and intermediate bus stops are at accessible compliant standards (so any on verges along A road will need redoing)
The cycle lobby won't approve of a relatively narrow unlit fast road being make connection to station so will ask for wide cycle path
Similarly no footpath along road to town from station will be objected to
Then of course if a car park is built, needs to meet standards of today with proportion of disabled spaces, EV charging spaces etc.
Then there will be loss of some countryside, so alternative or replacement would need evaluating.
Talking of evaluating, flood report, EIA (environment impact assessment), Wildlife comments, and if any ground has endangered or protected species, that is going to need a study
etc, etc, ........

Building the station is easy bit, paperwork, and planning is the faff

 
Images now show that it was the trench.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/local-news/gallery/pictures-show-hole-through-a36-11200843

Echoes of Cricklade: some time after the railway closed, unknown persons explored the minimal clearance between between the railway cutting and the canal tunnel below it. ISTR three feet was quoted.

In this case the exploration was unintentional. Given that the road was until recently a trunk route (and is still an 'A' road) I wonder if the tunnel ever received inspections as load-bearing from the point of view of road traffic.