This is a test of GDPR / Cookie Acceptance [about our cookies]
Really irritating test - cookie expires in 24 hour!
Great Western Coffee Shop
Recent Public Posts - [guest]
Why are buses getting slower?
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [380041/32544/5]
Posted by Red Squirrel at 08:49, 26th September 2026
 
Quite a long article here, detailing how cycle lanes, road works, traffic and many other factors are slowing down buses in London and elsewhere:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2026/sep/23/london-buses-in-terminal-decline-why-public-transport-in-global-cities-is-slowing-to-a-crawl-visualised

Re: The opportunity that GBR offers
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380040/32493/40]
Posted by Electric train at 08:21, 26th September 2026
 
From Andrew Stephens on LinkedIn - 3,000 words precised down to about 100 in my review

A few days ago I wrote an article about Great British Railways that was, if I am being generous to myself, sceptical.

[snip]

The infrastructure will still need maintaining. Trains will still need servicing. Drivers will still drive them, signalling will still need operating, stations will still require people, electricity will still need buying and, unless somebody in Whitehall has been keeping a particularly exciting technical breakthrough quiet, rails, bridges, tunnels, embankments and overhead lines will continue to deteriorate when exposed to weather, weight and time.

[snip]

Perhaps the real opportunity is not in who owns the railway at all. Perhaps it is in finally removing some of the extraordinary amount of friction involved in running it.

I think he is right in his identification of the opportunity.  The question is ... will the opportunity be taken?

"Friction" is an extremely apt word.  I wish I'd thought of describing it that way

Are you sure it's not a typo? In the context of the way the railways are owned/run perhaps "fiction" was intended?

During the railway privatisation process in the 1990's the word "tension" was used a lot.  The DfT / Treasury /Government / John Major belief was that British Rail could not get to the (eutopia) subsidy free position that politically John Major's Conservative government wanted because it lacked commercial / competitive "tension".

By breaking BR up into 100 business this would create market forces tension which in turn would generate completion thereby driving costs down and improving efficiency and because of the competition between TOCs this would lead new train operators entering the UK rail market hence more train services all competition with each other ................ (what could possibly go wrong!)

The same model was used for maintenance and renewals multiple companies all bidding for the work, cost being driven down and efficiencies and performance improved by competitive tender process, Railtrack would be according to the Government at time be in the Fotsi 100 companies.

The contracts did have wonderful clause that included "collaborative working" "required to work collaboratively with" etc

All of the above was the essence of the internal propaganda being feed to the staff within BR at the time.

What actually happened within UK rail the tension changed to friction because the eutopia of a friendly collaborative environment was ultimately trumped the companies share holder dividend and the salaries of the Chairmen and CEO's etc.  So yes the railways has been running for many years with a lot of friction.

It will be interesting to see if the performance of GWR / NR GW Route improves in the months after GWR is taken into public ownership when the commercial / contractual friction has been removed





Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380039/32456/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:18, 26th September 2026
 
I’ll ask my usual question.

If it gets bad enough that the sensible choice is to hide in a bunker to survive, then what is the point in surviving the inevitable complete breakdown in society that would greet you when you emerge?

And even a nuclear attack is worth surviving if too close. A basic shelter reduces the radiation dose received to about one thousandth of that in the open.

...........and when you emerge, blinking into the horror of the aftermath, what then?

Re: Special timetables - dry trackbed and leaf season
In "The Lighter Side" [380038/32543/30]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:14, 26th September 2026
 
Excuses, excuses. I can't speak for the whole country but in this neck of the woods the prolonged hot and dry summer has already produced significant premature leaf drop which will reduce the effect of the main event when it happens.

"More leaves than normal falling at the same time"

"More trees than usual needing repair at the same time"

Re: Bus lanes to be scrapped (in Rotherham)
In "The Lighter Side" [380037/32542/30]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:59, 26th September 2026
 
Given the current state of the UK's education system I was surprised that the 'University of Central Mexborough' was a spoof. It could have been on a par with Gower Street Polytechnic. 

Re: Special timetables - dry trackbed and leaf season
In "The Lighter Side" [380036/32543/30]
Posted by grahame at 07:56, 26th September 2026
 
Excuses, excuses. I can't speak for the whole country but in this neck of the woods the prolonged hot and dry summer has already produced significant premature leaf drop which will reduce the effect of the main event when it happens.

"More leaves than normal falling at the same time"

Re: Special timetables - dry trackbed and leaf season
In "The Lighter Side" [380035/32543/30]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:35, 26th September 2026
 
Excuses, excuses. I can't speak for the whole country but in this neck of the woods the prolonged hot and dry summer has already produced significant premature leaf drop which will reduce the effect of the main event when it happens.

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [380034/32456/31]
Posted by broadgage at 05:20, 26th September 2026
 
I’ll ask my usual question.

If it gets bad enough that the sensible choice is to hide in a bunker to survive, then what is the point in surviving the inevitable complete breakdown in society that would greet you when you emerge?

A bunker is not only against a nuclear attack. Also useful in case of extreme weather, conventional air raids, or civil disorder.

And even a nuclear attack is worth surviving if too close. A basic shelter reduces the radiation dose received to about one thousandth of that in the open.

Re: Special timetables - dry trackbed and leaf season
In "The Lighter Side" [380033/32543/30]
Posted by bobm at 04:31, 26th September 2026
Already liked by grahame

Special timetables - dry trackbed and leaf season
In "The Lighter Side" [380032/32543/30]
Posted by grahame at 03:55, 26th September 2026
 
We have the South Western Main line slowed because the clay of the trackbed is drying out, but I haven't heard about leaf fall season timetables yet this year.  Have I been sleeping?


[url=https://www.facebook.com/dognamedstella/]Dog named Stella[/url] has 1 million followers!

Re: An introduction for Melksham newcomers to bus and train services
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [380031/32532/18]
Posted by grahame at 03:34, 26th September 2026
 
Do you know if taxi drivers have to pay a fee to use Melksham station's forecourt?
I think 'forecourt' over-sells it
https://maps.app.goo.gl/daWCKW6BJWBULCfB6

That's an old image.  The white lines were recently refreshed (after we asked and were told no - funny how things happen sometimes.   Noticing TaplowGreen's comment about the picture of balloons near pylons in another thread)

The paintwork on the road that looked like this ... has I think gone.



The disabled parking space is still there. A luggage locker has appeared though I have yet to see anyone using it.  Swivel round on the Google view and you'll see the old cafe notices (view is July 2024) which could really do with an update. Station area "work in progress" in need of some TLC.

Re: Checking on your train running just before you set off
In "Introductions and chat" [380030/32503/1]
Posted by grahame at 03:18, 26th September 2026
 
so I'm not in the right frame of mind to write good code!
Jeez you still write code? I haven't done that for months, not since I got my Claude Code license. And Claude reviews it as well. What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously, have you tried it? I'm (mostly) using Opus 5.5 in VSCode, and we have a very good working relationship. It really is amazing what it can do, and how little time it takes to do it.

Seriously  ... no, and it's on my "must look at that" list.

The majority of coding I do is tweaking / adjusting and it's not been something that's pushed me over the edge to try - just yet.  And that from me who made a living / business of being ahead of the curve with innovative coding languages.

Re: Watch: Great Western Railway offers video view inside its control room
In "Media about railways, and other means of transport" [380028/32498/49]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 00:21, 26th September 2026
 
Episode 3 is available on YouTube, at https://youtu.be/j_C7ml7ZCIg?is=1xaa_R0j_nbcEVA3


Re: Bath's park and ride from Lansdown, the 31
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [380025/32540/5]
Posted by Mark A at 20:58, 25th September 2026
 
... back to double deckers today.

Bus lanes to be scrapped (in Rotherham)
In "The Lighter Side" [380024/32542/30]
Posted by grahame at 18:31, 25th September 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Bob_Blakey
 
From the Rotherham Bugle

Rotherham’s bus lanes look set to become a thing of the past next year after a study failed to find a single passenger who needed to be anywhere anytime soon.

The study, headed up by Professor Joseph Carr, head of Applied Passenger Logistics at the University of Central Mexborough, looked at hundreds of bus journeys spread over the first half of 2026 and concluded that there was nobody travelling by bus who was in any sort of hurry.

Article continues

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [380023/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 18:08, 25th September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

17:04 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:23 has been cancelled.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.

19:02 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

21:53 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill due 00:01 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

cancelled "due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled"

Re: Reported assaults on Britain's rail services rise by more than a third
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380022/32536/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:02, 25th September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 

Absolutely. I have a lot of friends who are recently retired/still serving in the Police, and they find it endlessly frustrating in terms of the way their priorities have been changed - one common theme is that changing the name from the "Police Force" to the "Police service" had an enormous cultural impact beyond semantics, and by no means all positive.

By a very minor coincidence, last night I was watching the 2001 episode of "The Bill" police drama featuring the retirement party of "old-school" Sergeant Cryer; he makes a moving speech about the change from "Police Force" to "Police Service - a pointed dig at "new school" Superintendent Tom Chandler. Frustratingly the episode is missing from the Internet Archive but can be viewed here on u.co.uk  One has to register.

(I'm working my way through all 2,300 episodes, and the above is number 1,593. By 2001 it had started to get silly, with various combinations of relationships between the police and a high death rate among them. It does have the merit of many scenes being filmed in and close to Docklands as it was re-developed from docks to yuppiedom.)

I used to drink in the Cross Keys in Hammersmith where several of the cast members were regulars. It was more notable though for the quality of its Fullers "Chiswick" ale, never an easy one to find but well worth seeking out!

Re: Reported assaults on Britain's rail services rise by more than a third
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380021/32536/51]
Posted by Marlburian at 17:47, 25th September 2026
 

Absolutely. I have a lot of friends who are recently retired/still serving in the Police, and they find it endlessly frustrating in terms of the way their priorities have been changed - one common theme is that changing the name from the "Police Force" to the "Police service" had an enormous cultural impact beyond semantics, and by no means all positive.

By a very minor coincidence, last night I was watching the 2001 episode of "The Bill" police drama featuring the retirement party of "old-school" Sergeant Cryer; he makes a moving speech about the change from "Police Force" to "Police Service" - a pointed dig at "new school" Superintendent Tom Chandler. Frustratingly the episode is missing from the Internet Archive but can be viewed here on u.co.uk  One has to register.

(I'm working my way through all 2,300 episodes, and the above is number 1,593. By 2001 it had started to get silly, with various combinations of relationships between the police and a high death rate among them. It does have the merit of many scenes being filmed in and close to Docklands as it was re-developed from docks to yuppiedom.)

Re: Reported assaults on Britain's rail services rise by more than a third
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380020/32536/51]
Posted by Mark A at 17:40, 25th September 2026
Already liked by ChrisB
 
That's not far right though: when people quote 'Weekly pro-Palestinian hate marches in London' it's more a repetition of various tropes, boosted in this age of generational trauma.

Mark

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [380019/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 17:28, 25th September 2026
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be started from Swindon.
It will no longer call at Gloucester, Stonehouse, Stroud and Kemble.
This is due to a fault on a train earlier.

Re: The opportunity that GBR offers
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [380017/32493/40]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:58, 25th September 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Chris from Nailsea
 
From Andrew Stephens on LinkedIn - 3,000 words precised down to about 100 in my review

A few days ago I wrote an article about Great British Railways that was, if I am being generous to myself, sceptical.

[snip]

The infrastructure will still need maintaining. Trains will still need servicing. Drivers will still drive them, signalling will still need operating, stations will still require people, electricity will still need buying and, unless somebody in Whitehall has been keeping a particularly exciting technical breakthrough quiet, rails, bridges, tunnels, embankments and overhead lines will continue to deteriorate when exposed to weather, weight and time.

[snip]

Perhaps the real opportunity is not in who owns the railway at all. Perhaps it is in finally removing some of the extraordinary amount of friction involved in running it.

I think he is right in his identification of the opportunity.  The question is ... will the opportunity be taken?

"Friction" is an extremely apt word.  I wish I'd thought of describing it that way

Are you sure it's not a typo? In the context of the way the railways are owned/run perhaps "fiction" was intended?

Re: Reported assaults on Britain's rail services rise by more than a third
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [380015/32536/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:46, 25th September 2026
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Simply shocking

You have to wonder why the more "anti violence" measures and response policing we have, the worse the situation becomes.  Some people's willingness to be violent in an an attempt to get their way is simply startling.

I say this as someone who's business property recently has been raided by a gang armed with baseball bats and crowbars.  Considerable damage and inconvenience, but, thank God, no one hurt.  2nd break in in 2 years.  I can't help but think a more robust approach from Staffordshire Constabulary (who have almost pulled-out of Tamworth, where my business is situated) and the legal system might just provide a bit more of a deterrent.  At present, despite all the fine words about clamping down blah blah, the opposite seems to happen.  The chances of anyone being apprehended and comprehensively punished for any "low level" crime are very, very small

Absolutely. I have a lot of friends who are recently retired/still serving in the Police, and they find it endlessly frustrating in terms of the way their priorities have been changed - one common theme is that changing the name from the "Police Force" to the "Police service" had an enormous cultural impact beyond semantics, and by no means all positive.

For example the weekly pro Palestinian hate marches in London would have been policed far more assertively in the past, but now hands are thrown up in horror at the thought of causing offence to particular groups.  The clip of a Police officer glugging coffee whilst patronisingly explaining to a Jewish woman that a swastika flag should be taken "in context" lives long in the memory.

I struggle to remember shoplifting being a virtual free for all either in the past with few or no consequences for the perpetrators.

(I'd better leave it at that before I get accused of being "far right") 

Re: Checking on your train running just before you set off
In "Introductions and chat" [380014/32503/1]
Posted by JohnM at 14:50, 25th September 2026
 
so I'm not in the right frame of mind to write good code!
Jeez you still write code? I haven't done that for months, not since I got my Claude Code license. And Claude reviews it as well. What could possibly go wrong?

Seriously, have you tried it? I'm (mostly) using Opus 5.5 in VSCode, and we have a very good working relationship. It really is amazing what it can do, and how little time it takes to do it.

Re: An introduction for Melksham newcomers to bus and train services
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [380013/32532/18]
Posted by JohnM at 14:16, 25th September 2026
Already liked by rogerw, Mark A, Chris from Nailsea
 
Do you know if taxi drivers have to pay a fee to use Melksham station's forecourt?
I think 'forecourt' over-sells it
https://maps.app.goo.gl/daWCKW6BJWBULCfB6

Re: An introduction for Melksham newcomers to bus and train services
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [380012/32532/18]
Posted by grahame at 13:32, 25th September 2026
 
Do you know if taxi drivers have to pay a fee to use Melksham station's forecourt?

Mark

I do know. They don't.

 
The Coffee Shop forum is provided by customers of Great Western Railway (formerly First Great Western). The views expressed are those of the individual posters concerned. Visit https://www.gwr.com for the official Great Western Railway website. Please contact the administrators of this site at admin@railcustomer.info if you feel that the content provided by one of our posters contravenes our posting rules. Our full legal statment is at https://www.greatwesternrailway.info/legal.html

Although we are planning ahead, we don't know what the future will bring here in the Coffee Shop. We have domains "firstgreatwestern.info" for w-a-y back and also "greatwesternrailway.info"; we can also answer to "greatbritishrailways.info" too. For the future, information about Great Brisish Railways, by customers and for customers.
 
Current Running
GWR trains from JourneyCheck
 
 
Code Updated 11th January 2025