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Re: Change to Number 8 service at Temple Meads
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379423/32445/5]
Posted by grahame at 09:39, 11th September 2026
 
Thank you for the replies, I am not sure why, but I am unable to "like" a post

That has been "nagging" at me.  I suspect it's beccause our "like" function may communicate with the server(s) using http rather than https protocols and security settings in your browser are too tight to let that through / or you have some anti-tracking software running that thinks your "like" is a tracking mechanism.  It's probably not a sensible use of what could be a lot of time to replicate, fix and test when the "like" mechanism as a whole needs sorting - sorry!

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [379422/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 09:24, 11th September 2026
 
A couple so far today:

08:51 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 11:14 will be terminated at Reading.
It will no longer call at Oxford, Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a fault on this train.

11:58 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 14:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379421/32479/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 08:52, 11th September 2026
 
You invest to get a return, but GWR see no return in the South West but are prepared to ride on the backs of others. Taxpayers, Stakeholders, third parties.

Some more passing loops and increased services would give them more passengers, more revenue.

This applies to SWR as well. They were under the same umbrella once long before nationalisation.

They just don't seem to see what is happening to a city like Exeter which has become a hub for most of Devon, Somerset, and Dorset.

Sutton - 16th most stressful station in the world?
In "The Lighter Side" [379420/32482/30]
Posted by grahame at 08:06, 11th September 2026
 
https://brilliantmaps.com/most-stressful-train-stations-in-the-world/

The [maps] show the most stressful train station in most of the countries of the world. They come from fleetlogging.com.

snip

16   Sutton - Sutton, United Kingdom   63.2%

Posted on "the lighter side" based on how hugely terrible the maps are.  The maps are stylised, but "Sutton" looks to me to be somewhere near Dunbar ... and it's interesting that it's the only one in the top 100 in the UK.

Re: Blackpool's Tramtown museum shuts as building deemed unsafe
In "Railway History and related topics" [379419/31954/55]
Posted by grahame at 07:26, 11th September 2026
 
From Blackpool Transport posted yesterday, 10th September 2026

Blackpool Heritage Trams aim to feature in this year’s Lightpool Festival, with static displays of two of the best-known trams planned for the October light show.

Blackpool Transport is currently restoring and upgrading the much-loved Western Train and Rocket trams, with support from local transport groups and a team of volunteers.

The iconic Western Train tram - the illuminated twin-car tram, based on a Santa Fe train - is perhaps the most iconic of Blackpool Transport’s heritage fleet. The unique Rocket tram had passengers travelling at a 30-degree elevation when it ran through the 80s and 90s. It is hoped the pair will be able to be viewed up close by visitors to Lightpool– a 10-day, free festival of light-based art installations.

Works are also underway to return operational heritage trams to the tracks, however structural welding, electrical systems and axle repairs are all required before any can be safely and reliably returned for passenger tours.

Re: Blackpool trams don't go to Fleetwood any more
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379418/32481/5]
Posted by grahame at 06:58, 11th September 2026
 
They terminate at Fishers Wharf,and the bus takes you to the Fleetwood stop.
This is due to possible collapse of a building on the tram route.
Surprised that
1)There are no departure display boards on any of the tram stops
2) There are no ticket issuing machines at any of the tram stops

19th Jun 2026 onwards

Lord Street in Fleetwood is currently closed due to a dangerous building.

All trams are terminating at Fisherman's Walk. Stops at London Street, Victoria Street and Fleetwood Ferry cannot be served. A free shuttle bus provided by Wyre Council links Elm Street bus stop (next to Fisherman's Walk tram stop) to Fleetwood Market, running on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays running every 15 minutes between 10am and 3pm. At other times services 5 and 14 serve Fleetwood Market and Fleetwood Ferry.

This is a temporary change - "Sorry for any inconvenience caused and we will resume normal services once the building is made safe or demolished and the road reopens."

Blackpool trams don't go to Fleetwood any more
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379417/32481/5]
Posted by infoman at 06:05, 11th September 2026
 
They terminate at Fishers Wharf,and the bus takes you to the Fleetwood stop.
This is due to possible collapse of a building on the tram route.
Surprised that
1)There are no departure display boards on any of the tram stops
2) There are no ticket issuing machines at any of the tram stops

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379416/32456/31]
Posted by broadgage at 01:14, 11th September 2026
 
That was my thoughts, what do we use D cells for now?
OS in post CFN.

D cells are less used than in years gone by, but have the merit of costing about twice as much as AA cells but giving from 6 to 10 times the capacity.
Mainly used in larger torches and lanterns. Four D cells in a torch with a 700 ma bulb will run for about 12 hours, with AA cells under 2 hours.

D cells can also be used, with an adaptor, in railway type Bardic lamps, now that the correct AD 28 batteries are extinct.

Re: Project Churchward - future regional fleet for the West, new rolling stock to replace DMUs
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [379415/27482/40]
Posted by John D at 22:41, 10th September 2026
 
Nothing yet for GWR, but seems new train orders for UK have started again. 

I don't think there has been any non Open Access orders since 2019 (except the 10 extra Elizabeth line trains and the 10 CAF class 387s for LNER)

29 x 5car trains for Transpennine have just been announced (but not until 2034) from Alstom at Derby

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd94y7d7qyzo

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379414/32479/24]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:36, 10th September 2026
 
GWR have not paid for the Newquay investment.
Why would they?

I verged on just adding a 'like' to IndustryInsider's post, but I then thought better of it: that would be too simplistic.

The fact of the matter is, with their commercial parent group First looking at re-nationalisation of their railways from December 2026, they are rather unlikely to spend anything they don't have to in the meantime ...

CfN. 

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379413/32456/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:21, 10th September 2026
 
OS in post CfN.

As an aside here on this topic, may I thank MVR S&T here for his very generous , and much appreciated, arrangement to post some of his surplus Ordnance Survey maps to me.

Chris from Nailsea.


Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379412/28982/26]
Posted by eightonedee at 22:15, 10th September 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
There's a section on the class 175 problems in this week's Green Signals podcast and weekly You Tube video, including an interview with Barry Milsom of GWR. See https://www.greensignals.org/podcast/more-diversions-gwrs-plan-to-keep-customers-on-trains-over-christmas/ at 14.55
 
(it also includes a piece on diversions during the up-coming blockades between Reading and Paddington that members will find of interest).

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379411/32479/24]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 22:11, 10th September 2026
 
GWR have not paid for the Newquay investment.

Why would they?

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379410/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 22:01, 10th September 2026
 
Ely :2: 175008 (half), 175104

Wolverton : 9 : 175005 by road.  175102/103/105/106/107/108/109/110. 175008 (half) Bold are Green

Laira : 14: 175002/007/009, 175114 ex Ely; 175001/003/006/011, 175101/111/112/113/115/116 ex Wolverton

Exeter : 1 : 175004 ex Wolverton

Long Rock : 1 : 175010 ex Ely

as of 10 September 2026. No trains from Wolverton since the 23 June 2026

A video of Ely Papworth. Very few trains anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3Pxs7EZLo0&t=81s

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379409/32479/24]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:54, 10th September 2026
 
There is a definite problem between management, unions, and train crew. Will it all magically go away this December?

Of course it will: that's the whole point of re-nationalising the railways.

Pay attention, at the back of the classroom there! 

Yes, because those three groups always got on so well together under British Rail, didn't they! 

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379408/32479/24]
Posted by grahame at 21:36, 10th September 2026
 
There is a definite problem between management, unions, and train crew. Will it all magically go away this December?

Of course it will: that's the whole point of re-nationalising the railways.

Indeed the problems of the interactions between the interests of a private operating company and other parties WILL go away - there will be no private operating company any more.    MagicOf course, there will be a new management at the DfT ... and what they do and how they do it is the $64,000 question

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379407/32479/24]
Posted by grahame at 21:32, 10th September 2026
 
Looking from left field, I recall a heritage train running to Windemere.   And I learn from an Internet search that a Hastings Diesel unit visited Barnstaple on 25th June 2005 - https://www.hastingsdiesels.co.uk/railtours/2005tarka - and presumably there's no real reason why one of those couldn't be hired out to the Tarka Line now that it has returned from Sheffield Park.

Loading might still be a problem - even with a six car Hastings unit, so many enthusiasts would be drawn that even at that length it might overload ...

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379406/32456/31]
Posted by MVR S&T at 21:15, 10th September 2026
 
That was my thoughts, what do we use D cells for now?
OS in post CFN.

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379405/32479/24]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:02, 10th September 2026
 
There is a definite problem between management, unions, and train crew. Will it all magically go away this December?

Of course it will: that's the whole point of re-nationalising the railways.

Pay attention, at the back of the classroom there! 

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379404/32456/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:55, 10th September 2026
 
Candles, batteries, mainly AA and D.
Bottled drinking water

Again, I agree with broadgage here.

In our household, we have a plentiful supply of candles in store.

We also have plenty of batteries, particularly AA and AAA.  Interestingly, we also had a large number of D Cell, but after a family conference, we couldn't identify any of our appliances which used them.  After making local enquiries, we couldn't find anyone else who would have a use for them - so we dumped them, in the recycling container at the local civic amenity site. 

Bottled drinking water we also have.  This has already proved useful, as we have suffered a couple of water supply outrages temporary failures, one due to a JCB driver impaling a water main on a building site the other side of Nailsea. 

As well as those, we also have a sufficient supply of canned and dried food to last for several days, in case of need.

CfN. 

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379403/32479/24]
Posted by Mark A at 17:58, 10th September 2026
 
*snip*
For twenty years they were reluctant to spend their own money in the Southwest.  The (I hate to say it) EU kick started the half hour Paignton service. *snip*

I loved to see it. Also the EU in the south west, a poster from 2018:



Edit: Postimages seems to have derailed, let's see if it comes back and the above image appears...

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379402/32456/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:35, 10th September 2026
 
We are rather straying from the original topic, but I do agree with broadgage on that one. 

CfN. 

Dingwall and Kyle of Lochalsh - scenic Highland rail route to close for upgrade
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [379401/32480/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:27, 10th September 2026
 
From the BBC:

Second scenic Highland rail route to close for upgrade


The line between Kyle of Lochalsh and Dingwall will shut for three weeks - Image © Jim Barton

A second scenic route in the Highlands is to close for an upgrade and repair programme.

The line between Dingwall and Kyle of Lochalsh will be shut for a period of three weeks starting at the end of November.

A number of different locations will see improvements made including the Carron Viaduct and upgrade work will also be done at Inverness railway station.

The £9m overhaul is being carried out a couple of weeks after the West Highland Line is shut for nine days in order to make it more resilient in periods of bad weather.

(BBC article continues)


Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379400/32456/31]
Posted by broadgage at 16:59, 10th September 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Long underwear is preferred in severe cold weather, or in moderate cold if heating fuel is short, short underwear at other times.
Cotton is most comfortable for daily use, wool is warmest.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [379399/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 15:09, 10th September 2026
 
Some more including a "regular" pair:

15:18 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:25 has been cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

15:52 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 18:26 will be terminated at Worcester Shrub Hill.
It will no longer call at Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

17:04 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

19:02 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:28 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

22:51 London Paddington to Worcestershire Parkway Hl due 01:06 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

(edited to add the 15:08 WOF:PAD)

Re: Batteries Included! 507001 overpowers its third rail limitation
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [379398/32451/28]
Posted by anthony215 at 14:31, 10th September 2026
 
They could be quite useful on the Portishead Line.

Sorry. CfN.     

Not wrong. I do think it was a mistake not.to havw created a few more battery powered class 230s to.use on some local services around Bristol TM  especially as its likely we'll be waiting years for a order of BEMUs

Re: Change to Number 8 service at Temple Meads
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379397/32445/5]
Posted by Phantom at 11:55, 10th September 2026
 
Thank you for the replies, I am not sure why, but I am unable to "like" a post

Out of interest, has the journey time changed?
I assume getting on a the bottom of Temple Way adds a minute or so

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379396/32479/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 11:54, 10th September 2026
 
There is one 175 running today 113 on mileage accumulation and is 80 minutes late at the moment.

There now seems to be a problem with brake applications after the sunflower problems; which incidentally never arose last December in those dark winter days of operation on the Newquay branch.

There is a definite problem between management, unions, and train crew. Will it all magically go away this December?

Re: Barnstaple to Exeter overcrowding, September 2026
In "Shorter journeys in Devon - Central, North and South" [379395/32479/24]
Posted by REVUpminster at 11:36, 10th September 2026
 
The 0722 from Barnstaple was meant to be, by now, a 175 five car train but that looks further away than ever.  A way was worked out to lock out one unit for some stops.

As for investment by GWR in the south west; they have rebuilt Exeter Depot but that has an indirect effect on better services. They did spend money on Exeter Central because the staircases and ticket gates were a safety hazard, and new doors to the ticket hall at Paignton station untouched by the recent fire.

For twenty years they were reluctant to spend their own money in the Southwest.  The (I hate to say it) EU kick started the half hour Paignton service. Government money through various agencies built the new stations and Okehampton line. GWR did run a Sunday summer service (it must have been safe) to Okehampton paid for by Devon County Council. GWR have not paid for the Newquay investment.

Here is an interview from the GWR strategy director that just mentions third party funding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-NLuAzRVXU&t=1287s

Re: To 'stockpile food' is now our Government's official policy, apparently
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [379394/32456/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:21, 10th September 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
FUEL, petrol, paraffin, propane cylinders, gas cartridges, logs, smokeless  fuel.

Candles, batteries, mainly AA and D.

FOOD, mainly tins and dried pasta. Chocolate. lifeboat rations.

Bottled drinking water, barrel of rainwater.

Port, spirits.

Durable goods, oil lamps, battery lamps, tools, sheets, blankets, towels, long and short underwear. Large UPS.

No venison or phesant as perishable.




Glad to see that both long and short underwear made the cut - you can't be too careful with these matters!

 
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