The interrail example at those prices must be Advance tickets surely - which require reservations - as do Lumo services which may also be included in the services being offered in that grid.

That photo is of an London Underground service (Bakerloo?).

 

If you see pictures of Devizes station in this period, you see a single track through what was once a three platform station, the line snaking in over stubs of pointwork.  No-one was bothering with connections or generating traffic, by that point knowing that the axe was about to fall.

It's a common sort of pattern - two trains a day into Halwill from the north, with the second one arriving 10 minutes after the train headed towards Okehampton and Exeter had left.

 

What was it they provided on Sundays for Taplow please?

Mark

 
So, the early one aside, the sole morning eastbound train through Devizes waits at Devizes for 25 minutes, heads to Patney and arrives there two minutes after an all-stations connection to Reading leaves?

 

Indeed - and people voting with their feet ... to take to the car ...

 
Looking at the GWR booking engine for this Saturday, Melksham to Weymouth:





Me thinks this is incorrect - and yet "reservations compulsory" or "reservations required" flags seem to be coming up at various odd places - this (above) is a GWR example and here is an Interrail example:



With multiple "errors" suggesting reservations are needed, I find myself wondering if there's any truth in the conspiracy theory that the railways want us to reserve seats whenever we travel in the future and are softening us up by plugging a false requirement.

For sure, it might help avoid scenes like this:

but wouldn't it lead to overcrowding at some stations while people waited for the train they were booked on rather than getting the next available service?

 
Sharing from https://www.facebook.com/MelkshamTUG ... I'll be headed. for Weymouth this Saturday on the penultimate direct day trip train of the year - final run on 5th September, bustituted from Melksham on 12th.

 

Selective door fault - an "all or nothing" train?  Yetminster is a request stop too, but the platform there is plenty long enough for the whole train. Good to see than an alternative plan is in place and advertised.  Not sure where the taxis can stop at Thornford or at Chetnole, mind - the roads are pretty narrow and there's no parking I can recall at either station.

 

If Devizes wasn't clever .. here's the other route from Westbury via Patney & Chirton.  Fancy travelling from or to Lavington?

 
Looking at connection times out of its trains, the first four I checked, Devizes services would have been a distress purchase by then.

 

20 minutes later all the way up.  Ironically, if it was timetabled to run at the time it actually ran today, it would provide a more useful return service for commuters from Westbury and Trowbridge via Melksham to Chippenham and Swindon.   How much extra traffic it would generate, I don't know - there's no equal and opposite train in the morning - a gap from 06:29 to 09:09 at Melksham.

 
Ironically it left just as the above was being posted - some 20 minutes late.

With the new later return time of 17:45, it set back from Swindon on time. 

 
From a timetable obtained for a few shekels at Sheffield Park last Saturday

 

 
All the way from Avonmouth to Reading ... the Avon, Kennet and Kennet and Avon Canal between them are accessible, with some long gaps, from the railway. Some wonderful station to station walks.   Here are some pictures on the longest unstationed section - Trowbridge to Pewsey.

 

Many thanks for that.  It's a story that, sadly, I'm familiar with.  Been around with learned and informed people to have picked so much up by osmosis. It continues to feel like a tragic missed opportunity, and one that parties with differing interests put so much heart into delivering the outcome they wanted that they remain sore to this day, to the extent that trying to move forward towards a shared and connected future still reads like pulling teeth.

Even generations later, the "big railway" still seems to impose costs and regulations on smaller players who would benefit - and so would their areas - from a realistic approach, and the young volunteers who were so hurt by the failure(s) remain untrusting - they may say realistic - in their more senior years.  They don't want to risk going out onto a limb, or showing a weakness by offering compromise.   Add to that - the modern data and technology age give rise to an abilityto add layers or rules and regulation, consultation and analysis, all with costs and longer timescales.  So that really doesn't make it feel like things are well-placed to get arrangements good for passengers and the area served implemeneted.

 

It's a fair point but if you try to double the pay of waiting staff in the UK in the manner suggested, an already fragile hospitality sector will almost certainly collapse in a heap.

I don't think tradesmen, mechanics and/or dentists generally rely on tips to make up their salaries to a reasonable level - certainly not judging by the BMWs and (one!) Aston Martin in the staff car park at my Dental surgery!

 

most of these haven't run for weeks

 

Can't deny the introduction of the Elizabeth Line to Taplow has been transformational - 6 trains an hour to London through to Abbey Wood in the peak, GWR managed 2 as far as Paddington with nothing on Sundays, it's been a major draw to the area which still however retains its rural charm and peace and quiet despite being pretty close to London and suburbia.

Hopefully the planners won't ruin that by allowing hundreds of new properties to be built!

 

... when compared with Taplow - population now around 2,400 - which nevertheless has access to a main line railway.  Whereas Portishead has been with without any railway connection since 7 September 1964.

Soon to be rectified, however - and that, I think, brings us rather neatly back to the point grahame was making in his original post for this topic. 

CfN. 

 

The 2 hourly Bristol-Oxford also now pass through

 

Back in the mid 1970s on the WSR we were complying with the regulatory burden.  Staff passed by British Railways traction and movements inspectors, for example.  We worked to the BR rule book. 

What stopped the progress of the re-opening was the BR Divisional Management at Bristol, who plucked some mad costs out of the sky (or elsewhere) and stuck them onto the Running Powers Agreement they wanted, for WSR trains to run over the couple of miles of former Up Relief line. You'd call these costs "Access Charges" these days, I guess.  Maintenance for the track, S&C, and signalling system.  A proportion of the Silk Mill signalmen's wages.  All sounds reasonable enough until you come to the BR way of calculating them

BR also wanted to control the maintenance of all vehicles that would be using their track, and wanted to charge exorbitantly for providing fitters and inspectors to do this.

The NUR's 1976 "blacking" of the railway "to protect the jobs of their bus driver members" was a godsend to the BR management.  They did not dare challenge the union (this was before the union power reforms of the 1980s) so it was convenient to blame the NUR for the through trains never becoming possible.

So it was the cost and inertia on the part of the big railway that meant the initial ambition of the WSR not becoming fulfilled

 

Verily a throbbing metropolis!

 

Should be. Two 175s out today 002 started it's mileage accumulation doing Exeter-Paignton-Exeter then ended up in Exeter depot.

113 is doing mileage accumulation between Plymouth and Penzance.

There is still one 2 car and eight 3 car at Wolverton that when they arrive at Laira will be service ready according to Mark Hopgood. Nothing has come out of Wolverton since the 23 June.

 
I'd like to see things go further with the removal of a separate service charge, the full cost of each item on a menu just being what it says on the menu. I know there is a perception that for particularly poor service you can choose to exclude that element, but the same doesn't apply when buying most other products, or indeed when paying for other services such as home, bike or car repairs, or (say) private dental treatment. I express my appreciation for good service by repeated patronage, and avoid places that give poor service while trying to avoid basing my entire judgement on a single experience unless it's obviously indicative of the general attitude.

 

Cut off in his prime!...

 

Portishead - population now around 26,500, for example. 

 

Well that's the rather thorny question isn't it?

At present there are just the Paddington services, and it doesn't really seem justified to add an extra stop to them, particularly when they are running on diesel.

Arguably a better long-term solution would be an all-stops Bristol TM to Chippenham metro service, which could also accommodate additional new stations like Saltford, Bristol St Annes, Bathampton etc.

The longer-distance Weymouths and Southamptons could then be run semi-fast.

Whether there is a capacity to do that and how well it matches to the ridership patterns is another question

and to remove some of the stops from the 

 
 

 
Those 175s are great aren't they? Presume they are supposed to be running these?

All cancelled.

10:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 12:12
13:14 Penzance to Plymouth due 15:10
13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40
15:52 Penzance to Plymouth due 17:47
Thu, 27 August 10:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 12:12
Thu, 27 August 13:14 Penzance to Plymouth due 15:10
Thu, 27 August 13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40
Thu, 27 August 15:52 Penzance to Plymouth due 17:47
Fri, 28 August 10:14 Plymouth to Penzance due 12:12
Fri, 28 August 13:14 Penzance to Plymouth due 15:10
Fri, 28 August 13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40
Fri, 28 August 15:52 Penzance to Plymouth due 17:47