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| Re: Interesting "What3Words" In "The Lighter Side" [377806/32322/30] Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:54, 5th August 2026 | ![]() |
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| Defining the Intercity brand In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [377805/32323/51] Posted by grahame at 06:59, 5th August 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
From Europe by Rail
When British Railways introduced the Inter-City brand in 1966, no-one could possibly have anticipated how the idea would be emulated and adapted by railway administrations across Europe. The name actually predates 1966. Our 1961 Bradshaw shows in Table W152 that a fast morning express from London Paddington to Wolverhampton was called The Inter-City. That 9 am departure dashed to Wolverhampton in 2hrs 40mins. But here the name was applied to just a single train — not to a wider family of services. That broader usage appeared in 1966 in Britain, when Inter-City edged its way into everyday language — nudged along by TV advertising campaigns to promote the new brand. It came with a distinctive blue and white livery that was soon being seen on trains at main-line stations across Britain.
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377804/32318/31] Posted by broadgage at 06:26, 5th August 2026 | ![]() |
I would support this tax, provided that it is confined to limited areas that are very popular with visitors and therefore prone to overcrowding.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.
Hotels already pay for the water and energy they use. Roads, car parks, public transport more arguable.
Hotels do indeed pay for energy and water used, at the "going rate" At present they do not pay the capital costs involved in meeting the increased demand (new reservoirs, and treatment works, new substations and generating plant)
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377803/32318/31] Posted by grahame at 03:47, 5th August 2026 | ![]() |
The general idea in France, at least, is specifically to cover some of the extra costs incurred by the local authority - roads and parking, cleaning and rubbish bins, and the like. Otherwise these are paid by the residents, only a few of whom make money off those visitors which could be taxed as an alternative.
That's not all their costs for visitors, and in some places day trippers (who don't pay it) are more important. But that's just a further problem, as yet unsolved. The visitor tax is seen as addressing part of the shortfall, at least.
However, I don't think that is why it's found favour with Andy and his supporters in Andyland (Andymia?). I think its real attraction as something to do at once is that it is (and can only really be) a local tax, paid to local government. And devolution is one of his Big Ideas, perhaps the biggest, and needs a lot of locally raised government revenue.
Since the plan requires local taxes, set and controlled locally, a block grant doesn't have the right look and feel. Shifting existing taxes over (or down) to local level will not be easy, involving undoing current arrangements to remake them, and replacing lost revenu in some cases.
So a new tax is more attractive, even if it is quite small in revenue terms and so makes almost no contribution to the financial autonomy of local governments. The idea's the thing! But I don't think the need or desire to tax visitors because they must have money to be taxed is important here.
That's not all their costs for visitors, and in some places day trippers (who don't pay it) are more important. But that's just a further problem, as yet unsolved. The visitor tax is seen as addressing part of the shortfall, at least.
However, I don't think that is why it's found favour with Andy and his supporters in Andyland (Andymia?). I think its real attraction as something to do at once is that it is (and can only really be) a local tax, paid to local government. And devolution is one of his Big Ideas, perhaps the biggest, and needs a lot of locally raised government revenue.
Since the plan requires local taxes, set and controlled locally, a block grant doesn't have the right look and feel. Shifting existing taxes over (or down) to local level will not be easy, involving undoing current arrangements to remake them, and replacing lost revenu in some cases.
So a new tax is more attractive, even if it is quite small in revenue terms and so makes almost no contribution to the financial autonomy of local governments. The idea's the thing! But I don't think the need or desire to tax visitors because they must have money to be taxed is important here.
Agreed. I have been trying to quantify hotel rooms / overnight guests in Wiltshire and it's not an easy piece of research!.
https://www.visitwiltshire.co.uk/dbimgs/Press%20Release%20-%20ACCOMODATION%20REPORT%20HAS%20REVEALED%20SALISBURYS%20POTENTIAL%20FOR%20FUTURE%20INVESTMENT%20AND%20DEVELOPMENT%20-%20FINAL(1).pdf
As part of its strategy to grow Wiltshire’s visitor economy, VisitWiltshire commissioned
hotel development consultancy, Hotel Solutions, to deliver a Hotel & Visitor
Accommodation Study for Salisbury and the surrounding area. The study revealed that there
is currently a supply of *198 visitor accommodation establishments operating 2,900
bedspaces, with a further 236 accommodation businesses in the surrounding 10-mile area,
offering an additional 3,600 bedspaces. This data takes into account all forms of
accommodation, with hotel and touring caravan and camping provision dominates the
current supply.
In 2018, occupancy rates were good across all accommodation types with four-star hotels
achieving on average, 74.3 per cent occupancy rate, which grew in 2019 to 75.4 per cent.
Growth indicators predict strong growth in 2020 in leisure tourist demand, as well as
potential for an increase in corporate demand.
hotel development consultancy, Hotel Solutions, to deliver a Hotel & Visitor
Accommodation Study for Salisbury and the surrounding area. The study revealed that there
is currently a supply of *198 visitor accommodation establishments operating 2,900
bedspaces, with a further 236 accommodation businesses in the surrounding 10-mile area,
offering an additional 3,600 bedspaces. This data takes into account all forms of
accommodation, with hotel and touring caravan and camping provision dominates the
current supply.
In 2018, occupancy rates were good across all accommodation types with four-star hotels
achieving on average, 74.3 per cent occupancy rate, which grew in 2019 to 75.4 per cent.
Growth indicators predict strong growth in 2020 in leisure tourist demand, as well as
potential for an increase in corporate demand.
Out of date, and just one part of the county. A 20 year old study suggests that 10% are business visitors.
6500 bed spaces, 75% occupancy, suggests about 1.5 to 1.7 million taxable overnight stays per annum within 10 miles of Salisbury a decade ago ...
>>> 6500 * .75 * .9 * 365
1601437.5
Let's call that £3 million income, with goodness only knows what proportion of that being spent on the actual collection.
Interesting to note figures of about 1.3 million per annum visiting Stonehenge - goodness only knows what proportion of them are day visitors to the county, what proportion stay locally, and indeed how many are local residents in the council tax catchment anyway.
All these thoughts ignore age issues - and on a recent visit to Stonehenge, I noted a high proportion of school / college groups ...
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377802/32318/31] Posted by stuving at 00:02, 5th August 2026 Already liked by grahame | ![]() |
The general idea in France, at least, is specifically to cover some of the extra costs incurred by the local authority - roads and parking, cleaning and rubbish bins, and the like. Otherwise these are paid by the residents, only a few of whom make money off those visitors which could be taxed as an alternative.
That's not all their costs for visitors, and in some places day trippers (who don't pay it) are more important. But that's just a further problem, as yet unsolved. The visitor tax is seen as addressing part of the shortfall, at least.
However, I don't think that is why it's found favour with Andy and his supporters in Andyland (Andymia?). I think its real attraction as something to do at once is that it is (and can only really be) a local tax, paid to local government. And devolution is one of his Big Ideas, perhaps the biggest, and needs a lot of locally raised government revenue.
Since the plan requires local taxes, set and controlled locally, a block grant doesn't have the right look and feel. Shifting existing taxes over (or down) to local level will not be easy, involving undoing current arrangements to remake them, and replacing lost revenu in some cases.
So a new tax is more attractive, even if it is quite small in revenue terms and so makes almost no contribution to the financial autonomy of local governments. The idea's the thing! But I don't think the need or desire to tax visitors because they must have money to be taxed is important here.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [377801/31163/26] Posted by ray951 at 20:39, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Looks like quite a mess this evening.
It was, down to one Oxford - London service per hour which was usually running late and no stopping services all day between Didcot and Oxford.| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377800/32318/31] Posted by RailCornwall at 20:37, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
It's widely used abroad, providing it is used to recoup some of the costs associated with discretionary expenditure on leisure stays I'm fine. It must however be reclaimable by business travellers and contractors engaged on construction and maintenance. Additionally virtually all of the take must go to the relevant local authority and not added to central funds and distributed by central government. There are many documented cases of visitors to Cornwall staying in self catering accomodation arriving with their food and not contributing in any way to the area of their holiday. If these are captured it'll be a good thing.
| Re: 16-17 Railcard - validity extension for 18 year olds In "Fare's Fair" [377799/32321/4] Posted by RailCornwall at 19:26, 4th August 2026 Already liked by Chris from Nailsea | ![]() |
Makes sense considering the numbers over 18 in full time education.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [377798/31163/26] Posted by BBM at 18:56, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
AFAICS from Open Train Times, the stationary 1J93 18:08 Paddington to Frome has been blocking the DM at Twyford for over 20 minutes with a queue of trains behind it.
EDIT: now moving with 28 minutes delay and with three other trains closely following behind.
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be terminated at Swindon.
It will no longer call at Stonehouse, Stroud, Kemble, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster and Salisbury.
It is being delayed at Gloucester.
This is due to a broken down train.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [377796/31163/26] Posted by NickB at 17:55, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Looks like quite a mess this evening.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [377795/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:28, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Alterations to services between Reading and London Paddington
Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:15 04/08.
Customer Advice
Owing to a problem with a section of track near London Paddington, fewer trains are able to operate between London Paddington and Reading.
Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:15 04/08.
Customer Advice
Owing to a problem with a section of track near London Paddington, fewer trains are able to operate between London Paddington and Reading.
Update "Disruption is expected until the end of the day"
| Interesting "What3Words" In "The Lighter Side" [377794/32322/30] Posted by bobm at 17:03, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
I probably have too much time on my hands, but came across this combination of words for the steam railway ticket office in Kingswear - vocal.stooping.paramedic
Anyone else found some standout ones?
| Re: Interrail trip 4 - the journey continues In "Introductions and chat" [377793/32275/1] Posted by grahame at 15:24, 4th August 2026 Already liked by rogerw | ![]() |
We allowed half an hour to change in Frankfurt - but I don't think our connection will have been held.

| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377792/32318/31] Posted by grahame at 15:12, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
I have posted further comment - as both a hotel user and a past hotel operator - at https://grahamellis.uk/blog2041.html
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377791/32318/31] Posted by grahame at 14:47, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
I would support this tax, provided that it is confined to limited areas that are very popular with visitors and therefore prone to overcrowding.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.
Hotels already pay for the water and energy they use. Roads, car parks, public transport more arguable.
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377790/32318/31] Posted by broadgage at 14:19, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
I would support this tax, provided that it is confined to limited areas that are very popular with visitors and therefore prone to overcrowding.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [377789/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:55, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Alterations to services between Reading and London Paddington
Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:15 04/08.
Customer Advice
Owing to a problem with a section of track near London Paddington, fewer trains are able to operate between London Paddington and Reading.
| Re: Bath to Melksham on a Sunday In "Buses and other ways to travel" [377788/32317/5] Posted by Mark A at 12:57, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Thanks for the info on the service revival's early years. I seem to recall two weekday services of an evening that allowed a quick circular trip via Melksham from Bath for anyone needing a fix of train travel after work - with enough time to leap off at Melksham for a bite to eat before heading back for the second train. Thinking back to the early 2000s it would be pretty good, today, to have some of the train services that Bath had then** but it's really good that Melksham now has a somewhat more rounded timetable than it did at that time.
Mark
** Full disclosure: heading for the line to Buxton in the nineties we suddenly realised that there was a weekday loco-and-carriages service from Reading to Manchester that, on the way, at 8:30 in the morning, called at Oldfield Park, fitting our ideal travel itinerary like a glove.
| Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026 In "London to the Cotswolds" [377787/31371/14] Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:35, 4th August 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Tuesday 4th August
08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:04/08/2026 04:14
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.
Last Updated:04/08/2026 04:14
RTT shows 1G01 0632 Swindon to Worcester Shrub Hill as being cancelled "due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS)."
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377786/32318/31] Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:28, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
It's not as if our politicos don't already have their hands deep enough into our pockets and then find ways to waste what they've extracted
| Re: The Second Severn Crossing's monorail: main span walkway + a pylon. In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377785/32320/31] Posted by chuffed at 08:46, 4th August 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Great video ...the moment at the end 26 mins in or thereabouts made me think of Dr McCoy's ' It's life Jim, but not as we know it !', Absolutely fascinating from start to finish.
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377784/32318/31] Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:31, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
That's a definite 'No' from me. I wouldn't object quite so much if the government wasn't wasting lots of our money elsewhere.
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377783/32318/31] Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:00, 4th August 2026 Already liked by JayMac | ![]() |
It's a firm "No" from me.
It would seem this Government is doing its level best to destroy the hospitality sector already, the last thing it needs is another regressive tax.
It would seem this Government is doing its level best to destroy the hospitality sector already, the last thing it needs is another regressive tax.
I don't doubt your views, but is it really regressive? Pay per head 'x-amount' is equal, and therefore is neither progressive nor regressive.
A regressive tax is structured so that individuals with lower incomes pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes compared to higher-income individuals, even if the absolute amount paid is the same. It does not consider the person's ability to pay.
This tax is a textbook example of a regressive tax.
| Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026 In "Across the West" [377782/31163/26] Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:55, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Cancellations to services between Oxford and Didcot Parkway
Due to a tree blocking the railway between Oxford and Didcot Parkway the line towards Didcot Parkway is blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.
| 16-17 Railcard - validity extension for 18 year olds In "Fare's Fair" [377781/32321/4] Posted by grahame at 06:48, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
From the BBC
Eighteen-year-olds will be able to buy half price train tickets for most services when railcard rules are changed later this month, the Department for Transport (DfT) has announced.
It's an extension of the 16-17 Saver railcard which currently expires when the holder turns 18. From 17 August, they will be valid for a full year from the date of purchase.
It means 17-year-olds will be able to buy the railcard up until the day before they turn 18, making it valid until the day before they turn 19.
The existing rule meant more than 70,000 students each year were an average of £175 worse off than those in the same academic year who hadn't yet had their 18th birthday, the DfT said.
The 16-17 Saver Railcard costs £35 per year and entitles the holder to 50% off most train fares.
Rail minister Lord Hendy claimed this "common sense change" is "exactly what passengers should expect from the railway".
It's an extension of the 16-17 Saver railcard which currently expires when the holder turns 18. From 17 August, they will be valid for a full year from the date of purchase.
It means 17-year-olds will be able to buy the railcard up until the day before they turn 18, making it valid until the day before they turn 19.
The existing rule meant more than 70,000 students each year were an average of £175 worse off than those in the same academic year who hadn't yet had their 18th birthday, the DfT said.
The 16-17 Saver Railcard costs £35 per year and entitles the holder to 50% off most train fares.
Rail minister Lord Hendy claimed this "common sense change" is "exactly what passengers should expect from the railway".
| Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [377780/18525/10] Posted by grahame at 06:43, 4th August 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
Might be getting off at Bath and catching the bus at this rate, don't really want to miss the 18:00 Melksham service at Chippenham and wait another hour.
Wise call
Delay-repay will cover the bus fare.Yep, there's only one railway station in Melksham and a hundred bus stops - and with no buses at all calling at the stop at the station - so (and it applies to Lisa and me to) that final leg from the longer distance railway journey to our front door can be surprisingly efficient changing to a bus in a neighbouring town.
| Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [377779/18525/10] Posted by JohnM at 06:31, 4th August 2026 | ![]() |
Might be getting off at Bath and catching the bus at this rate, don't really want to miss the 18:00 Melksham service at Chippenham and wait another hour.
Wise call
Delay-repay will cover the bus fare.| Re: The Second Severn Crossing's monorail: main span walkway + a pylon. In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377778/32320/31] Posted by stuving at 00:13, 4th August 2026 Already liked by Mark A | ![]() |
There's also a monorail in at least one of the national grid electricity tunnels under London. The main reasons are the distance and lack of access shafts, and saving of time. There is an IanVisits article about this.

One thing I have never found out is whether this has any use for pulling new cables into place when a cable is to be added or replaced. And I expect there are similar things hiding in other big bits of linear infrastructure.
| Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377777/32318/31] Posted by Ralph Ayres at 23:10, 3rd August 2026 Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby | ![]() |
I would object strongly; it feels very unwelcoming. When I spend time somewhere I'm already contributing to the local economy and employment whenever I spend any money. I will almost certainly be spending more per day on many things (eating out, entertainment, attractions) than the locals do. Not my fault if the current tax regime doesn't pass that on effectively, and why charge overnight visitors but not those who just come for the day, except that they are an easy target?
On a related note, my local council gives reduced car park rates to us residents. That does make me a little uncomfortable and feels Little Britain-ish ("local car parks for local people"). Don't we want to encourage people from elsewhere to come into the borough to spend their money here and help our local economy? It also does nothing to encourage local residents to leave their car at home and use our pretty good public transport (outer W London) or walk/cycle for those local journeys.
PS Going somewhere on holiday in the UK isn't a staycation! For me it's a perfectly normal holiday, abroad being very much the exception as I haven't run out of UK places I want to see for the first time or return to.














