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Re: Social Media - which do you use these days?
In "News, Help and Assistance" [372307/31599/29]
Posted by bradshaw at 08:43, 12th February 2026
 
There is a group chat facility. I am in one for Mapperton House where I volunteer as a guide. I believe one person sets up the chat and others join, possibly by invitation.

Re: Social Media - which do you use these days?
In "News, Help and Assistance" [372306/31599/29]
Posted by grahame at 07:39, 12th February 2026
 
I used to be on LinkedIn, but when I retired I deleted it: I was getting irrelevant offers of jobs as a van driver ... in Lincolnshire, for example. 

These days I use WhatsApp on my phone and at home on the computer, and text messages on my mobile when I'm out and about.

I also use e-mail and personal messages on the forum.

Looking at the poll ... LinkedIn is getting relatively few votes;  I use it, and continue to do so, for the industry contacts - to listen and occasionally talk the passenger view.  In some ways, I "work for transport" though in a voluntary capacity and it's a work connection.   Sure, I get job offers ...

I do have WhatsApp on my phone and in occasional use for 1 to 1 and occasional group chats.  All of these social media outlets are different in some ways.   I have not found (is it there?) a way of posting articles and getting a general "of interest" type feed on WhatsApp.   Is it there?   Is it used?

Re: Clockface timetables - a good idea?
In "Across the West" [372305/31583/26]
Posted by grahame at 07:28, 12th February 2026
 
Poll completed - thank you for your responses.

Yes   - 10 (37%)
Yes - though odd exceptions OK on a timetable   - 14 (51.9%)
It doesn't matter   - 2 (7.4%)
No - clock face should be avoided   - 0 (0%)
Don't know   - 1 (3.7%)

You have confirmed that clockface - or near to it - does matter for most people.   The D1/D1x timings from the far end of Trowbridge into Bath - shown in the initial picture - caused some concern when introduced, even with the local management who felt it was imposed them from First HQ by a team who were looking at the theory of getting the most out of all their vehicles / assets and miming both layovers and late running.

Conclusion - "Yes, where practical" is probably the best answer; I remain (as an occasional user) critical of the D1 timetable show - too confusing / does not attract me.    I AM away that a spray of services will mean that different connections may make and break in each hour, and if a want a journey without a wait in the middle they will give me a couple of good opportunities during the day.

Re: Catering on trains - lists of operators and what they allow and what they offer
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372303/31605/51]
Posted by grahame at 06:14, 12th February 2026
 
To my mind, the article was simplified to the extend of being misleading.    It suggested as I read it that I can get on the train in Melksham and, being GWR operated, that there's going to be catering.   I may have skim-read, but I know there won't be. 

Last Saturday, I rushed onto the 16:00 Bristol Temple Meads to London ... travelling as far as Chippenham.  Had there been a static coffee station (formerly known as a "buffet") I would have grabbed a coffee.  However, there was a mobile trolley which offered my a drink somewhere around Box / Corsham by which time it was too late.  Oh for the system that I've seen in Sweden, Norway and Denmark (just in 1st on the latter) where hot drinks are available from a machine / flask, not manned all the time and where a coffee can be had even on a short journey.

The whole "joined up for passengers" thing, and experience on that journey, went further - I digress.  Public Transport industry information systems suggested I had an hour to wait at Chippenham for the local train home.  But actually a bus from the new stations forecourt left for Melksham 10 minutes after my train arrived. It was Saturday afternoon so that worked ... Monday to Friday, the bus connection off the 16:00 from Bristol just fails, and of course the Lacock / Melksham / Semington / Hilperton bus only picks up at Chippenham Station from around 15:30 to 17:45 in the afternoon (and all day Sunday) and at other times of day during the week, it's from the bus station only.  You need a PhD or a travel agent to sort these things out.

Re: Mousehole, Cornwall: a bus route change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372302/31600/5]
Posted by grahame at 05:58, 12th February 2026
 
They did similar in Fowey a couple of years back

Bus routes need to change at times ... and we have an example locally in Melksham too.  These are difficult calls.

Last September, the incoming 271 from Bath no longer calls at the Market Place on its way to Bowerhill.   At first glance a significant negative - however, this route used to double up and down the High Street.   The High Street has become a traffic jam zone for various reasons beyond the control of Faresaver and the time taken to reach and unreach the main stop was impacting reliability, to the extent that the timetable could not be maintained clockface without adding an extra vehicle ... and now the 271 in the Bowerhill direction misses out the main Town Centre stop. 

Re: Catering on trains - lists of operators and what they allow and what they offer
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372300/31605/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:28, 11th February 2026
 
It's probably better if Coffee Shop forum member 'broadgage' doesn't read this topic.

CfN.

Re: Serial rail fare evader faces jail over 112 unpaid tickets - Jan 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [372299/31458/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:16, 11th February 2026
 
The actual fine imposed is just a fraction of the costs involved:

In addition, he is accused of failing to pay fines worth £48,682 from separate prosecutions between August 2019 and April 2025.

Brohiri was ordered to pay back £3,629 in unpaid rail fares but he was not ordered to pay prosecution costs which the court heard amounted to £15,120.

Simple arithmetic: adding together the £48,682 and the £15,120 is £63,802 - and he's been fined £3,629 of that figure.

The taxpayer is down by over £60,000 and isn't going to see any of that back.

Re: Mousehole, Cornwall: a bus route change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372298/31600/5]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 22:30, 11th February 2026
 
They did similar in Fowey a couple of years back

Re: Catering on trains - lists of operators and what they allow and what they offer
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [372297/31605/51]
Posted by Kernow Otter at 22:28, 11th February 2026
 
Levelled down I imagine.

Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372296/31133/5]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 22:26, 11th February 2026
 
Cornwall bus preservation society are organising heritage dupes for the last afternoon.

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Cukz8y6B7/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Re: Serial rail fare evader faces jail over 112 unpaid tickets - Jan 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [372295/31458/4]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 22:17, 11th February 2026
 
Where/how is he going to find the money to pay that fine?

It'll be deducted from his benefits......so in effect the rest of us taxpayers will be paying his fine.

Re: OTD - 11th February (1927) - first private preservation of locomotive
In "Railway History and related topics" [372294/26013/55]
Posted by johnneyw at 21:46, 11th February 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
It was probably one of those that we were on when we went from London to visit one of mum's friends who had moved to Frinton in the 1960s.

It's a remarkable achievement to buy and organise the restoration of the unit at such a young age, and in such a short time too.

Re: Buses: heating
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372293/31610/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:41, 11th February 2026
 
There are, of course, other ways of heating a bus: see also https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=7528.0 

Re: OTD - 11th February (1927) - first private preservation of locomotive
In "Railway History and related topics" [372292/26013/55]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 21:20, 11th February 2026
 
An update on the Clacton Express Preservation Group, from the BBC on 12 April 2025:

Clacton Express train saved from the scrap heap is fully restored


Brad Wright and a team of volunteers have finished the restoration of the Clacton Express

The restoration of a historic electric train has been completed, with members of the public able to have a look inside for the first time.

Brad Wright, 22, a railway enthusiast from Needham Market, Suffolk, bought the British Railways Class 309, also known as the Clacton Express, in March 2022. He had been restoring it along with a team of volunteers at the East Anglian Railway Museum in Wakes Colne, near Colchester.

Mr Wright said he was proud to have finished the work and have it on show during the Essex Electrics Exhibition at the museum on Saturday.

"It was great to get involved to save it, but to then donate it to the museum to ensure that it survives well beyond me... was my main goal – to make sure it was safe and preserved for future generations to remember," he explained. "I couldn't be prouder." He added he had felt "an immense amount of satisfaction" in completing the restoration.

Mr Wright saved the train from scrap in Sussex in 2022 and set up the Clacton Express Preservation Group – a non-profit group that offers support and volunteers to restoration projects.

The train was a pioneer of its time and operated on the Great Eastern Main Line from London Liverpool Street to Colchester, Clacton and Walton-on-the-Naze from the 1960s. It also ran to Harwich, Ipswich and Norwich from the 1980s before it was retired in the 1990s.

The Essex Electrics Exhibition celebrates the 40th anniversary of the lines being electrified to Ipswich as well as the 40th anniversary of the refurbishment of the Clacton Express trains. "They went through a big change in the middle of their lives," Mr Wright said. "That's how it's preserved now – just as it would have rolled out of the factory 40 years ago after that rebuild."

The team have given the train a complete restoration both inside and outside. Members of the public can look inside and enjoy other guided talks and demonstrations during the event.




Re: Proper Cornish pasty?
In "Introductions and chat" [372291/31607/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:53, 11th February 2026
 
Fond memories of a trip to Penzance and a real pasty - thank you GBM.

See also https://www.firstgreatwestern.info/coffeeshop/index.php?topic=29717.msg357647#msg357647 


Re: Serial rail fare evader faces jail over 112 unpaid tickets - Jan 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [372290/31458/4]
Posted by Marlburian at 20:52, 11th February 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Where/how is he going to find the money to pay that fine?

Re: Serial rail fare evader faces jail over 112 unpaid tickets - Jan 2026
In "Fare's Fair" [372289/31458/4]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:05, 11th February 2026
 
An update, from the BBC at Westminster Magistrates Court:

Serial rail fare evader fined £3,600 over 112 unpaid tickets


Charles Brohiri continued to travel without a ticket after being banned from entering Thameslink stations as part of his bail conditions

A "brazen" rail fare dodger has been fined more than £3,600 after failing to pay for a ticket on over a hundred journeys.

Charles Brohiri, 29, travelled without buying a ticket on 112 Govia Thameslink Railway (GTR) journeys over a period of nearly two years. He was ordered to pay the unpaid fares and handed a three‑month prison sentence, suspended for 12 months, at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

Brohiri, originally from Hatfield in Hertfordshire, but who has been homeless for three years, pleaded guilty to 76 charges of failing to pay for a rail ticket, and was convicted in his absence in August 2024 of a further 36 charges.

District Judge Nina Tempia said Brohiri had behaved as though he were "invincible," and showed a sense of "self-entitlement" in believing he could evade the rules. The court heard he had continued to travel without a ticket despite being banned last April from entering Thameslink stations as part of his bail conditions.

Prosecutor Lyndon Harris told the court there had also been a further 16 alleged offences since his last appearance in court on 15 January, including the day before his sentencing.

Judge Tempia, who took the additional alleged offences into consideration, said his "deliberate and repeated" behaviour would ordinarily have justified a prison sentence, but she believed probation services could help him address underlying issues.

Eleanor Curzon, for the defence, told the court Brohiri "expressed remorse and regret" for having continued to travel on the railway, "particularly the period when he has been appearing before you judge". When asked why Brohiri had continued offending, Curzon said it was "a pattern he had gotten himself into".

The court heard he briefly attended university and had worked as a waiter before becoming homeless and moving to London.

Curzon said that Brohiri had been sleeping rough on trains, in hospitals and in libraries. She told the court he had tried to seek help from charities but struggled to engage because of a "combination of a lack of support, a negative mental health space and not knowing how to go about maintaining support from services". She added that Brohiri had never acted aggressively when challenged and said his decision to become sober three years ago "demonstrated his capacity to change".

"He reiterated to me this morning that if he is given the opportunity to work with probation they can assist him in securing accommodation and employment," Curzon continued. "It is really these two factors which will put an end to Mr Brohiri's offending."

Brohiri was ordered to pay back £3,629 in unpaid rail fares but he was not ordered to pay prosecution costs which the court heard amounted to £15,120. He was also ordered to complete 150 hours of unpaid work, 12 months' prohibited activity requirement - which means he must not travel on any GTR trains - and to complete rehabilitation activity requirement.

"Be under no illusion if you commit any other offences and you do not comply with the requirement on this order you will be back in court," the judge warned him.

A spokesperson for Govia Thameslink Railway said fare evasion increased costs for passengers and "diverted public funding away from improving services for passengers".

"That is unfair both on taxpayers and on the vast majority of passengers who pay for their journeys."  The operator said stepped‑up enforcement in known trouble spots, along with improved reporting tools for staff, has reduced ticketless travel on its network to its lowest level since 2022.


Re: Mousehole, Cornwall: a bus route change (for the worse)
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372288/31600/5]
Posted by Mark A at 19:28, 11th February 2026
 
The change to the Penzance to Mousehole number 6 announced on the following page.

https://www.transportforcornwall.co.uk/plan-your-future-journeys-february-network-information-now-available

Service will operate half-hourly throughout the day, hourly during the evenings and on Sundays. To provide additional capacity at busy times buses will no longer serve the Harbour and will terminate at the Coastguard Hotel.

Had to read that twice and am tempted to ask Graham to set his pedantry loose on that sentence.

Mark


Edit note: Sorry, Mark: just amending your quote marks, for clarity. CfN.

Refurbs !
In "Cross Country services" [372287/31611/43]
Posted by Clan Line at 19:28, 11th February 2026
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3wlpz8vj4po

Re: GWR's Battery Electric Train - ongoing discussion
In "Thames Valley Branches" [372286/29641/13]
Posted by TonyK at 19:22, 11th February 2026
 

Yeah, maximum linespeed is 40mph which you might just about reach down the hill between Castle Bar Park and South Greenford.

That’s why these 60mph units are a good fit for the branches.  None of the Thames valley ones are above 50mph and none of the Cornish branches go above 55mph.

Perhaps it’ll be a new unit design rather than this old D stock, but such speeds and distances are (mostly) suitable for battery trains using this technology.

I thought the idea of this train was as a test bed for the technology. I hope there will be more battery units, but not adapted D stock.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [372285/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 19:06, 11th February 2026
 
If they can separate the trains maybe 175011 can return faster?

This is a job for Saltash cams at 0208 if I can stay awake. Don't trust the timings.

175009 failed today out on the public run.

Recovering the trains was cancelled. Luckily I forgot and didn't stay up.

Re: First Bus pulling out of Cornwall, 14.2.2026
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372284/31133/5]
Posted by bradshaw at 18:54, 11th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
This weekend First Bus end their Cornwall operation

https://www.firstbus.co.uk/cornwall/update-our-cornwall-operations

The link below gives the Transport for Cornwall plans

https://www.transportforcornwall.co.uk/plan-your-future-journeys-february-network-information-now-available

Re: Buses: heating
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372283/31610/5]
Posted by JayMac at 18:36, 11th February 2026
 
There have been many complaints on social media about cold buses on the First bus services that radiate (sic) from Taunton. The complaints have been about the new electric fleet not having sufficient warmth.

Re: Hook Norton Brewery's stable block to reopen after 2024 fire: 14 Feb 2026
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [372282/31604/31]
Posted by TonyN at 18:21, 11th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Oxonhutch
 
You can even get there by bus.

Stagecoach 488 Banbury-Chipping Norton.

https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Oxford_Timetables/488_489_current.pdf

Re: West of England Transport Vision
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [372281/31609/21]
Posted by JayMac at 18:19, 11th February 2026
 
Advanced Travel for Avon (ATA)
Westway
Bristol Supertram
MetroBus Bristol
Marvin Metro

Just some of the failed, or half baked, mass transit proposals for Bristol since the mid 1980s.

Forgive me if I see the chances of the latest proposals going anywhere as being somewhere between Bob Hope and no hope.

Re: Looe Branch Line - timetables, cancellations, engineering work, closures and incidents
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [372280/569/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:01, 11th February 2026
 
A further week of disruption announced this morning.
Due to flooding between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.

Train services running to and from these stations have been suspended. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 16/02/26.

Alterations to services between Liskeard and Looe
Due to flooding between Liskeard and Looe the line is closed.
Train services running to and from these stations have been suspended. Disruption is expected until the end of the day on 06/03/26.

Re: West of England Transport Vision
In "Bristol (WECA, now WEMCA) Commuters" [372279/31609/21]
Posted by johnneyw at 16:28, 11th February 2026
 
I was struggling ,and failed, to find anything new in the announcement.  It did make me wonder about why the the Metro Mayor and the council team saw necessity to rehash reissue all this from Ashton Gate Stadium.

Re: Buses: heating
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [372278/31610/5]
Posted by bobm at 16:03, 11th February 2026
Already liked by Mark A, johnneyw
 
I was on a bus out of Bath in last month's cold weather.    Some fresh air fiend got on by the Abbey and opened three of the windows with great ceremony.... and then got off four stops later!

 
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