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Re: Major fire sees buildings evacuated and trains halted - Manchester, 23 June 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362629/30391/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:46, 24th June 2025
 
The story develops. 

From the BBC

Fire-hit mill was at centre of preservation battle

(Article continues)

Bridgwater Train Station: Bus issues to be resolved - June 2025
In "Bristol (WECA) Commuters" [362628/30399/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 23:11, 24th June 2025
 
From the Bridgwater Mercury:

BUSES may soon be able to provide a regular service for passengers at Bridgwater Railway Station, as “good progress” is being made with proposals to improve the forecourt.

Despite £1.2 million of improvements to the station delivered in 2020, the forecourt layout was deemed impractical for buses of a certain size. The bus shelter has since remained inactive since the improvements.

The improvements at the time aimed "to provide better access to the station and improve the forecourt".

Bus operator, The Buses of Somerset, originally voiced concerns about the space constraints, saying that, during the consultation process for the improvements, it had “clarified that none of its services divert into the station forecourt.”

But improvements are set to be implemented and potentially by the end of the year.  A spokesperson for Somerset Council said: “We are working closely with GWR on a proposal and making good progress. Once we have more details of the proposed design, we will be able to determine a delivery timescale.”

It was a view echoed by a council representative at Bridgwater Town Council’s transport forum in early June, who signalled that the issues could be resolved within four months.

Great Western Railway previously confirmed that the turning circle at the forecourt was designed for 8.7 metre buses, with the possibility to accommodate the smaller, shopper-style buses.

Bridgwater’s MP, Sir Ashley Fox, has previously raised the issue in Parliament. Speaking in the House of Commons, Sir Ashley said that the bus stop at Bridgwater railway station “has remained unusable since its construction due to road layout and safety issues.”

The nearest bus stop to Bridgwater Train Station is a short three-minute walk away at St. John’s Street.


Lappa Valley railway, Cornwall
In "Heritage railways, Railtours, buses, canals, steamships and other public transport based attractions" [362627/30398/47]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 22:37, 24th June 2025
Already liked by trainbuff
 
From the Falmouth Packet:

Much-loved locomotive to be centre of celebrations this weekend



A much-loved locomotive will be at the centre of celebrations this weekend.

Lappa Valley is preparing to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the Newlyn Downs Branch Line.

The family attraction opened its 10¼-inch gauge Newlyn Downs Branch Line in 1995, following the path of the former Newquay to Chacewater GWR line.

The railway was built with rails acquired from the then-closed Carlyon Bay Beach Railway. As part of the purchase, Lappa Valley also acquired the locomotive "Duke of Cornwall."

This locomotive was the sole motive power from the branch line's inception until 2008. Although it is currently undergoing an overhaul, the Duke of Cornwall will make a special appearance during the anniversary weekend.

Ben Harding, operations director at Lappa Valley, said: "Lots of people remember Duke of Cornwall with a great deal of fondness from her time on the beach, as well as here at Lappa. We're really pleased to be giving her a run-out over the weekend, with a series of demonstration services along the Newlyn Downs line."

As part of the two-day celebration, visitors will be taken along the route of the former Great Western Railway to the Mitchell & Newlyn Halt behind the current fleet, including 10¼‑inch diesels "Eric" and "The Duke." A new information board celebrating the history of the line will also be unveiled.

Last year, Lappa Valley unveiled a new station for the branch line, which will serve as a focal point for this weekend's celebrations. There will also be an opportunity for photos with the Duke of Cornwall locomotive and the current fleet.

Lappa Valley is an award-winning attraction featuring a 15-inch gauge railway, indoor and outdoor play, a café, shops, and more. It attracts over 100,000 guests each year and was named Railway of the Year 2025 in the Heritage Railway Association Awards.

The celebrations will take place on June 28 and 29.


Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362626/29711/14]
Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 21:23, 24th June 2025
 
19:02 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 21:26 was terminated at Didcot Parkway.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.
Last Updated:24/06/2025 21:00

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [362625/29073/31]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 20:43, 24th June 2025
 
Meanwhile in Wallingford last week I saw signs asking visitors not to feed the red kites common in that area.  They are apparently starting to associate humans with food in much the way gulls do at the seaside and risk becoming a similar pest, which would be a great shame given their successful reintroduction across the Chilterns.

Re: Modern Day Problems
In "The Lighter Side" [362624/30390/30]
Posted by Surrey 455 at 20:24, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea, Timmer
 

Also yesterday - a young lady who was quite pretty (am I allowed to say that?) when she arrived proceeded to "enhance" her lips with some sort of paint-on sickly looking layer that reflected light and left her looking very false indeed and far less pretty in my personal view.   She the proceeded to break pieces off a chocolate wafer biscuit and had to open her mouth wide to stuff the pieces in without damaging the work she had done to her lips.


Ah, it wasn't a Cadburys Flake advert being filmed in front of you then.

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [362623/29073/31]
Posted by eightonedee at 19:59, 24th June 2025
 
The Fowey resident said she did not see how the issue could be resolved because the animals are protected. "The law was written in 1981 and seagull behaviour was very different then," she said.

Err- no it was not! There was a large colony of Herring and Lesser Black-backed Gulls (much reduced since with the decline in coastal breeding of both species in the area) on Walney Island, on the southern tip of the Furness peninsula, that has a footpath running through it that has long been famous for the un-nerving aggression of some of the residents. But for real aggressive behaviour, nothing beats their much-smaller distant cousins, Arctic Terns, as anyone who has visited the Farne Islands during their breeding season and landed on Inner Farne will be able to attest!

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2025
In "Across the West" [362622/29650/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:46, 24th June 2025
 
Alterations to services at Twyford

Due to a fault with the signalling system at Twyford trains have to run at reduced speed on all lines.

Train services running through this station will be delayed or terminated at and started back from Reading.

Some stations between Reading and London Paddington will not be served. Disruption is expected until 18:15 24/06.

Re: Fallen tree on tracks at Portchester halts trains - 23 June 2025
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [362621/30389/20]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 17:36, 24th June 2025
 
Travelled from Bristol to Plymouth last month, (behind D1015) and the encroaching undergrowth bashing the rolling stock was very noticeable. 

I'm absolutely certain that the vegetation on the trackside and on infrastructure (such as bridges) is not as well controlled as it used to be.  I assume it's less costly to deal with events such as fallen trees here and there, than it is to keep things neat and tidy.  I daresay there would be massive outrage if there was a significant programme to remove the lineside plants, shrubs and trees

Re: Fallen tree on tracks at Portchester halts trains - 23 June 2025
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [362620/30389/20]
Posted by AMLAG at 16:57, 24th June 2025
Already liked by matth1j
 


Network Rail’s regularly programmed line and infrastructure monitoring trains detect tree and vegetation etc encroachments close to and in contact with trains and record and classify them as a ‘Guage Restriction’.
Infrastructure Managers are thus informed and should act accordingly to remove the offending
vegetation etc that caused a Guage Restriction.



Re: Weymouth SWR services 23/6/25
In "South Western services" [362619/30394/42]
Posted by WSW Frome at 15:17, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
To add to the above comments about Castle Cary - Platform 2 (the down main) is not accessible to trains coming from the Taunton direction. There is a barrow crossing at the down end of the platforms at Castle Cary. It does have gates and ?warning lights and is only usable with staff assistance.

Anecdotally, I was once travelling on a special from Minehead/Taunton to Weymouth and beyond. The initial plan was to reverse on the crossover to the east of the station (regularly used by trains travelling east from Weymouth). Such a reversal is not a signalled move so it was never allowed, especially with a loaded train. So it was necessary to reverse at Frome instead! 

Re: Major fire sees buildings evacuated and trains halted - Manchester, 23 June 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362618/30391/51]
Posted by Electric train at 13:43, 24th June 2025
Already liked by rogerw, GBM
 
The old mysterious fire weeks after planning permission is refused

Cynic 

Re: Thameslink train passengers evacuated as temperatures soar - 21 June 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362617/30386/51]
Posted by Electric train at 12:19, 24th June 2025
 
...................what efforts did the TOC/NR make to provide water for their stranded customers?

Perhaps they hired / subcontracted the delivery driver??

You would have thought something would have been arranged by the TOC/NR given the circumstances but it would appear that the delivery driver was "hired" by one of those on board the train who felt like he was being "slowly cooked".

It was rather fortunate that the job went to someone with such an accurate arm!

Lets consider how difficult it is to transport water.
500mL = 500g
Allowing for on person can carry 25kg on flat level ground that's 50 bottles but as it would have to be carried over rough track ballast 12kg so that 24 bottles

To supply a train with 300 plus people that's 12 people or a number of multiple trips.

Better to utilise those people to evacuate the train and have the water at the station or track exit point.

The cause is allegedly down to a shake proof washer not being fitted on the shoe when the unit was last serviced

Re: Major fire sees buildings evacuated and trains halted - Manchester, 23 June 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362616/30391/51]
Posted by Phantom at 11:56, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Mark A, Oxonhutch, GBM
 
The old mysterious fire weeks after planning permission is refused

Re: A bear may go where a dog may not?
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362615/28097/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 10:52, 24th June 2025
 
From the BBC:

Bears raid honey store after enclosure escape



Two bears who sparked the evacuation of a wildlife park involving trained firearms staff and police had headed straight for the honey store, the park has said.

Wildwood Devon, a conservation charity near Exeter, said European brown bears Mish and Lucy made their way to the food store after breaking free - and then consumed a "week's worth of honey".

The park was evacuated after the alarm was raised at about 15:00 BST on Monday - 16 people including children were locked into a play barn for their safety.

Mark Habben, director of zoological operations at Wildwood Trust, said emergency procedures were deployed and the public was "not in harm's way".



The trust has now launched an investigation into how the pair of "young bears", weighing about 180kg (397lb) escaped as there were no signs of enclosure damage, it said.

Mr Habben said: "Both bears are extremely happy, the team were very very calm as were the bears at all points. The public were not in harm's way, emergency procedures and everyone did the job they were intended to do."

Mr Habben said a "code red" was called after the bears were spotted by senior staff after they "breached" the enclosure and made their way to a staff area at about 15:00 BST on Monday. He said: "They were in an area where we keep enrichment - all the nice things. The bears had a feast, played around, pulled some rope out."

He said the code red is a "category one emergency procedure" which leads to park evacuation and lock down. He said the park's emergency team was deployed, including those trained in firearms, while police were notified and arrived on site to "support the team on the ground".

Mr Habben said staff monitored the bears on CCTV and they "remained very calm throughout", and did not breach any public areas, choosing instead to remain at the back of the bear house. "They were wandering up and down, having a sniff around, looking in the store cupboard where honey was stored. That was fortuitously left open so they raided that."

Mish eventually made her own way back to the enclosure and Lucy was lured back with a bell and her favourite foods.

He described the pair, who were rescued from a snow drift in Albania in 2019, as "extremely charismatic and resilient". The trust said it had built a reputation for working with European brown bears.

Mr Habben said this was the first time an escape incident had taken place at the park and an investigation was now underway as to how the breach occurred.

Another brown bear that was set to be killed in Sweden and travelled to England by Eurotunnel, was resident at the trust before being transferred to a park in Ipswich.

(Article continues)


My highlighting. CfN.

Re: Diary Of A Reasonably Frequent Rail User
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362614/17250/51]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 09:58, 24th June 2025
Already liked by PrestburyRoad, Witham Bobby, GBM
 
19-21/06/2025 - A Quick Family Visit For A Day At The Cricket
Including many of the usual rail service issues and failures.

Tickets
2 x Senior Railcard (SR) Off-Peak Day Singles DIG>PIN £5.70 (£2.85 each)
2 x SR Advance Singles PIN>LON £41.80 (£20.90 each)
2 x SR TfL Off-Peak Singles WAT>KGX £3.70 (£1.85 each)
2 x SR 1st Class Advance Singles KGX>WAK £78.00 (£39.00 each)
2 x SR Anytime Day Singles WAK>PFM £5.40 (£2.70 each)
1 x SR Anytime Day Return POF>HDY £6.05
2 x SR Anytime Day Singles PFM>WAK £5.40 (£2.70 each)
2 x SR Advance Singles WAK>KGX £31.40 (£15.70 each)
2 x SR TfL Off-Peak Singles KGX>PAD £3.70 (£1.85 each)
2 x SR Advance Singles LON>DIG £53.90 (£26.95 each)

Station group codes: WAK = Wakefield Westgate/Kirkgate - we changed at WKF in both directions.
LON - WAT outbound & PAD return.
POF = Pontefract Monkhill/Tanshelf

Outward - 19/06/25
DIG 0913 (OT)>EXC 0922 (OT): 2T11 EXM>PGN : 1 x 166/2 (3 Cars)
EXC 0930 (OT)>WAT 1249 (1303) : 1L36 EXD>WAT: 2 x 159/0 (6 Cars)
TfL Underground WAT>Warren Street (Northern Line)+Warren Street>KGX (Victoria Line)
KGX 1403 (1417)>WKF 1558 (1619) : 1D17 KGX>LDS : 1 x IC225 (9 Cars)
WKF 1642 (1643)>PFM 1705 (1706) : 2A23 LDS>KNO : 1 x 150/2 (2 Cars)

As seems to be increasingly common on the route there were no ticket checks on 2T11 between DIG & EXC.
1L36 was initially delayed by 8 minutes at PIN waiting for the late running 1L09 to clear the single line. 1L09 (SAL>EXD) left Salisbury on schedule, lost time after AXM, was 7 late at HON and got to PIN 9 minutes down. No idea why. Our train lost a little more time up to GIL where it was further delayed, to +24, waiting for 1L21 (OT) to clear the section from TIS. These two trains should have passed at the Tisbury Loop. Shortly after leaving GIL the TM announced that the ADV, WOK & CLJ scheduled stops would be skipped and passengers for those stations should change at either SAL or BSK as necessary. This enabled 1L36 to reach WAT only 14 minutes late (bit of a saving on Delay Repay!)
Tickets / railcards were checked.
Of the 6 carriages only 2 had working air conditioning.
It is episodes such as this which reinforces my view that  some more of the line should be restored to double track as a matter of urgency; it takes very little to throw the timetable out of kilter. Not surprisingly the TfL journey was somewhat toasty.
The delayed departure of 1D17 was announced as a power supply train fault. Given that these units are all at least 34 years old, and are due to be replaced by 10 CAF trains in 2027, the occasional glitch is probably to be expected. The LNER 1st class service was, as usual, very good. Also, as per normal, there was a full ticket / railcard check shortly after leaving KGX.
Unusually for Northern there was no ticket check on 2A23.
Possibly slightly off topic but nobody could miss that the viaduct immediately south of WKF, to/from Doncaster, seems to have more vegetation growing on it than Kew Gardens and Network Rail should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves for allowing it to get into such a state.

20/06/25 - Cricket England v India Ist Test Day 1 At Headingley
PFM 0845 (OT)>LDS 0925 (0927) : 2A04 KNO>LDS : 1 x 158/7 (2 Cars)
LDS 0959 (0953)>HDY 1006 (1007) : 2C30 LDS>YRK : 1 x 170/4 (3 Cars)
HDY 1943 (1953)>LDS 1953 (2001) : 2C67 YRK>LDS : 1 x 170/4 (3 Cars)
LDS 2029 (2030)>PFM 2104 (2113) : 2A31 LDS>KNO : 2 x 150/2 (4 Cars)

Slight delay on 2A04 at Whitehall Junction; most passengers familiar with the area would be surprised if this didn’t happen.
Yes, you read it correctly, as soon as they could cram no more pax onto 2C30 it was permitted to depart from LDS 6 minutes early. Operational common sense. Where possible more of this please. Obviously no onboard ticket check but revenue protection were in attendance at HDY. When asked one of the team said very little ticketless travel was being detected.
After play had finished for the day we decamped to the Headingley Taps pub rather than join the inevitable scrum. Good call - on 2C67 there were almost more Northern Trains Travel Safe officers than paying passengers.
2A31 is formed of the 2 x 150/2 stock from 2L28 (SHF 1902>LDS 2024) so wasn’t exactly overcrowded. 

Return - 21/06/25
PFM 1245 (OT)>WKF 1309 (1312) : 2A12 KNO>LDS : 1 x 150/2 (2 Cars)
WKF 1329 (OT)>KGX 1530 (1535) : 1A31 LDS>KGX : 1 x 801/2 (9 Cars)
TfL Underground KGX>PAD  (H&C Line)
PAD 1703 (1704)>EXD 1910 (1914) : 1C90 PAD>PNZ : 2 x 802/0 (10 Cars)
(2F30 EXD 1916>DIG 1929 Missed Connection)
EXD 1946 (1947)>DIG 1959 (2000) : 2F31 PGN>EXM : 1 x 166/2 (3 Cars)

The trains between Pontefract and Leeds via Wakefield are frequently subject to minor delays due to poor quality track, conflicts with a significant number of non-passenger services, and especially the absence of a fourth platform at Kirkgate (WKK).
1A31 proceeded normally until between New Southgate and Alexandra Palace where the service was temporarily switched to the slow line. A number of the ‘Orange Army’ team were observed trackside.
During the journey south perusal of the TfL website indicated that the Underground had suffered a serious meltdown; just before our arrival at KGX 7 lines were shown as having ‘severe delays’. On arrival at the Circle / H&C / Metropolitan Lines westbound platform we waited 1 minute for an H&C train to PAD. Reggie Perrin (actually his brother-in-law Jimmy) syndrome - bit of a cock-up on the information delivery front?
Of no importance whatsoever but 1C90 left PAD slightly late whereas the TM decided a specific PA announcement of an on-time departure was necessary. Odd.
IC90 arrived at RDG to time but was then held for no apparent reason - it certainly wasn’t anything to do with passenger numbers - and departed west 6 minutes late.
A little later when the TM appeared to perform a ticket check I asked him whether he could enquire about the possibility of the Exmouth train (a 6 minute connection) waiting for a short while. Computer said ‘No’ but he expressed the hope/expectation that the delay would be recovered en-route, and he also explained to me how such an action would delay loads of other services and cause absolute chaos. Given that a self-contained ‘dead-end’ branch line would have been involved this was of course absolute cobblers.
The train arrived at 1914 on EXD P4 and we got to P1 to see our intended connection depart. System still being run to suit the staff rather than for the benefit of the paying passengers?
One slight oddity I noticed at EXD was that our train to EXM used P3, and P2 at EXC, whilst the 1L49 from Waterloo used EXC P2 as normal but then ran down the hill into EXD P1 the reverse of the normal arrangement. RTT indicates that this is a Saturdays-only job. Anybody out there knows why this is done?


Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [362613/29726/18]
Posted by grahame at 09:36, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Mark A
 
Perhaps questions for the GWR "VIPs" at the Community event tonight - along with asking why we are now moving from a situation where they don't provide sufficient staff to run their services at weekends, to a place where we have weekday, peak services regularly cancelled for the same reason, and what are they doing to address it? 

Looks like the train has been uncancelled ... let's see what's said today - mind you, I have heard so much on the topic of cancellations in past years that I'll only believe that they are down to an reasonable level when we actually see trains on the line, consistently, at all the times in the timetable, week in and week out.  Words are cheap - "you can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time - but you can't fool all of the people all of the time".

By the way - there will be rare occasions when a train is logged as cancelled but then re-instated, but they should be rare.  This is a major disruption to people who have replanned their day based on the initial report - they have cancelled / reformed their plans. 

Re: Weymouth SWR services 23/6/25
In "South Western services" [362612/30394/42]
Posted by Mark A at 09:32, 24th June 2025
 
Thankfully the booking office was staffed and also the passenger assistance cave, with two or three staff from that also out and about being proactive. It's fortunate though that they didn't seem to have many passengers to deal with, and the lack of on train loos (cos, no trains) was an issue. There were also three police at the station, mainly dealing with one of the three alcohol / mental health I'd encountered on the 100 metre walk up the road to the station from the beach. Oh, and parts of the pavement on that road have their width massively comprimised by scaffolding, including a generous helping on both ends of the pelican crossing close to the station - something that contributed to one of said incidents.

To answer Infoman's query about Castle Cary - the station had all three platforms occupied so the train to London was in its usual place and around 20 people took the footbridge. Not sure what the provision is for wheelchair users at that station, perhaps there's a barrow crossing for accompanied use only. If not, it would have been on to Westbury... but are the lifts out of use at Westbury?

Mark

PS The lifts at Bath Spa are fully operational again now and not constrained to 2 people only.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025
In "London to the Cotswolds" [362611/29711/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 09:09, 24th June 2025
 
08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:25
Facilities on the 08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:25.
Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 9. There are no reservations on this service.
Additional Information
Please use any available seat according to the class of travel on your ticket. If no seats are available, we would be grateful if you could make sure that those who need them most are able to use them.
-
Alternatively, you can travel on either of the two GWR services that are immediately before or after this one. Your ticket will be valid for travel on these GWR services at no additional cost. You can see how many coaches our services have with the 'Live Times' feature on the GWR app, or speak to staff for further information.
Last Updated:24/06/2025 06:00

Sardines, anyone?

No reason for the substitution supplied.  The appeal to allow those most in need the use of available seats is something I'd not noticed before on JourneyCheck


Re: Fallen tree on tracks at Portchester halts trains - 23 June 2025
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [362610/30389/20]
Posted by matth1j at 08:52, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, GBM
 
I guess this could have been a pretty serious incident had it fallen at the wrong time. Is trackside vegetation monitored in any way to check for and prevent this sort of thing? Doesn't look easy along the lines in the picture.

Re: Seagulls, particularly in Cornwall - ongoing discussion
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [362609/29073/31]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 08:26, 24th June 2025
 
From the BBC:

Woman needs umbrella to fend off seagull attacks

A woman living in Cornwall has said she cannot leave her house without needing to defend herself against seagulls.

Valerie Bannister, from Fowey, said she has been left "feeling scared" after she was knocked to the ground on Friday night.

The 70-year-old said she did not wish to see the animals harmed and explained the birds were trying to protect their chicks which are outside the front and rear door to her house.

However, she admitted she was now fearful of serious injury if something was not done. Discussing Friday's incident, Ms Bannister said: "I was on the floor with these wretched birds circling above me."

She added: "The adult attacked me so badly that I fell over, which to be honest has left me feeling scared. I thought they were going to attack me again. If a young man had hit me like this, the police would probably have arrested him."

Ms Bannister said she only suffered bruising from hitting the floor but said if she had not been carrying an umbrella it would have been much worse.

Asked if she had been able to leave her house since the attack, she said: "I've left the house but I've been on my guard. Yesterday, I was leaving through the back door, going down the side of the house, through the garage and out of the drive but while carrying an umbrella."

The wildlife conservation charity RSPB said the Fowey resident was right to be using an umbrella. A spokesperson said: "When gulls dive-bomb, it's not aggression, just protective parenting. If you are experiencing this, we advise to use an umbrella when entering or leaving a property to deter the parents from getting too close. They'll move on once their chicks can fly, which won't take long once they are out of the nest."

The Fowey resident said she did not see how the issue could be resolved because the animals are protected. "The law was written in 1981 and seagull behaviour was very different then," she said. "I'm in a town now where they are an absolute menace. I just feel the ruling is archaic, it's almost 50 years old."

Cornwall Council have been contacted for comment.


Re: Major fire sees buildings evacuated and trains halted - Manchester, 23 June 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362608/30391/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 07:59, 24th June 2025
 
A further update, from the BBC:

Hotspur Press left a smoking ruin by major fire



A building on the site of what was believed to be Manchester's oldest mill is now a smouldering ruin after a major fire.

The Hotspur Press building on Cambridge Street, close to Manchester Oxford Road railway station, was destroyed by a fire on Monday, leading to its partial collapse.

It resulted in the cancellation of trains through Manchester Oxford Road station with "residual" disruption expected until 09:30 BST, National Rail said.

(Article continues)


Re: Weymouth SWR services 23/6/25
In "South Western services" [362607/30394/42]
Posted by grahame at 07:10, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby, Timmer
 
Weymouth today didn't see many South Western Railways services from mid afternoon onwards. I happened to be catching the 17:28 to Bristol and passengers for destinations east were being directed to that & with ticket acceptance in place. For some reason, there weren't many people for the South Western services, perhaps word had got round, so despite this directive, the GWR service wasn't full and standing as it left on time.

A bit of a quandary for the travelling public: with few trains, well, one three carriage one, in the station, and that one locked until a couple of minutes before it departed, the posters at the station to the effect that there were no facilities at the station but said facilities, for the use of railway passengers, were available on the train, rang somewhat hollow.

In due course passengers for London were instructed to transfer to a Paddington train at Castle Cary, said train being held for a few minutes to ease the connection there.

Mark

Customer care at Weymouth Station has left something to be desired for a while.   I sometimes get the feeling that the railways would run much more smoothly without customers - and indeed that was proven during the earlier part of Covid lockdown.  Perhaps, now that there's no financial incentive, we'll continue to see a further reduction to a very basic service indeed in an attempt to reduce complaints and costs, without too much worry about the loss of income.  Fares can always be "simplified" up and the taxpayer help.  I have my fingers crossed that this is not the nightmare scenario planned.

The other thing of note is that Weymouth is just one station on that line - it isn't hugely busy mid afternoon, with services to London gathering substantial traffic at Dorchester South, Wareham and Poole even before they reach Bournemouth - and for those other stations, GWR services would have been no use.

If the 17:28 was 3 car - probably a turbo.  2+3 seating and plenty of standing room - that should squeeze 'em in!

Re: GWR Community Rail Conference - 24th June 2025
In "Across the West" [362606/30086/26]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 07:07, 24th June 2025
Already liked by matth1j, Witham Bobby, GBM
 
Some pictures I took yesterday ...




Blimey!  Did they not have access to a spirit level when they built that?   


Re: Major fire sees buildings evacuated and trains halted - Manchester, 23 June 2025
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [362605/30391/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 06:57, 24th June 2025
 
An update, from the BBC:

People evacuated from tower after major fire spread



A fire that broke out at a landmark Manchester city centre building - causing it to partly collapse - spread to a neighbouring tower block.

Embers from the blaze at Hotspur House reached 1 Cambridge Street, resulting in the evacuation of residents from the building, Greater Manchester Fire And Rescue Service (GMFRS) told the BBC at the scene. However, it added the fire was no longer being treated as a major incident.

Anyone who has nowhere to go is set to be put up overnight by Manchester City Council.

The fire at the former printing press building broke out at about 17:00 GMT, forcing the cancellation of all trains through Manchester Oxford Road station.

The fire service urged the public to stay away from the area and said 20 fire engines from across Greater Manchester were on the scene.

A spokesperson said the blaze had spread to three floors of Hotspur House, and aerial units had been used to bring the fire under control. The spokesman added: "The two apartment blocks at number 1 Cambridge Street have been evacuated. A cordon is in place on Cambridge Street and we ask that the public stay away from the area. Residents nearby should keep doors and windows closed due to smoke in the area."

Footage taken at the scene showed parts of Hotspur House had collapsed.

National Rail said all lines were blocked and warned that services running through the station may be cancelled or delayed until 21:00 BST. It said rail replacement buses were running for Northern customers from Manchester Oxford Road at 18:20 BST and 18:25, calling at all stops to Warrington Central. There have been no further updates on disruption to rail services.



Buses were also leaving Warrington Central at the same times, calling at all stops to Manchester Oxford Road. A bus will depart Manchester Oxford Road at 19:00, calling at all stops to Earlestown.

TransPennine Express said rail replacement buses had been requested for the following routes:
* Manchester Piccadilly to Liverpool Lime Street in both directions
* Manchester Piccadilly to Preston in both directions

East Midlands Railway said it had bus replacements services on standby at Warrington Central, Stockport and Sheffield.

TransPennine Express said customers at Liverpool Lime Street could use their ticket at no extra cost to travel on TransPennine Express services to Manchester Victoria.

It also advised customers at Manchester Piccadilly and Manchester Oxford Road to use the free Transport for Greater Manchester bus link to Manchester Victoria, where they could change for connecting services towards Liverpool.




Connections, engineering works, delays and substitution - Slovak style
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [362604/30396/52]
Posted by grahame at 06:56, 24th June 2025
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I'm on an experience-gathering mission. Most of the time things run fine, but in every system / on every railway things can go wrong and delays happen. And it's interesting to see how connections work too.  I will leave it to the knowledgable reader to contrast and compare to the UK way in such circumstances.

Zilina Station is being rebuilt. There are only half of the tracks in use at present, and access is via a single long subway which is crowded with people as train platforms are only announced a few minutes ahead - standard practise in Slovakia and when you see how narrow the platforms are, you'll understand why you really don't want people waiting on them. 

Our 07:44 departure was called a couple of minutes before it was due to leave and it left about 3 minutes late - because of the trek out to the platform, and the incredible crowds - it would appear that all the young people here have broken up from school and parties are being taken for school trips - days and summer camps - and the station and trains were crowded to the extent they added to delays.

A further couple of minutes were lost as we snaked our way east along the remaining operation line through the building site that's the station throat at the moment, and we arrived in Vrutky around 5 minutes late.  Oops - "short connection" according to the journey planner, but the onward train to Banska Bystrica was held, people who needed to do so made the connection, and it then left - around 3 minutes late.

A lovely ride to Banska Bystrica, but the beauty is another story.  We were due there at 09:25 and can't have been far off that though I did not note the time - I left the station for a cup of coffee and a cake and returned in good time for my next train - the 10:17 diesel service to Margecany.

Arriving back into the station at Banska Bystrica, now caffeined up, an electric train - the 10:15 to Bratislava which starts from there is waiting. The incoming diesel - due at 10:12 - pulls in perhaps 4 minutes late but the Bratislava train waits until passengers have transferred before leaving.  Meanwhile another electric train, this from Bratislava pulls in and people come across to the diesel train, a modern 2 carriage train, and we set off a handful of minutes late on the 3 hour 36 minute (scheduled) journey to Margecany.  It's a thinly served line - just two trains go the whole way on winter weekdays, boosted to four trains at weekends and in summer.

We toddle along - not part of this story - until we get to Cervena Skala high in the valley we have climbed and just before the watershed into the next valley.

Everyone else is getting off and I do know that some short workings terminate here but, no, the line to the next station is closed for engineering works and we are transferred to a bus.  As one of the last people to leave the train (I don't speak Slovak) the staff helped ensure I found the bus, and I got just about the last seat in amongst a typically teenage population in there with bags, cases and camping gear. And we set off.

Not a very long drive - to Telgart where the bus drove up the station approach and parked to allow up off near the platform.  No train waiting, but a couple of minutes later one arrived, passenger going the other way got off and transferred to the bus, and our gang joined the train.  I would estimate that we pulled out around 15 minutes behind schedule.

Many more stations, little and big, people off and on. I had chosen the opposite carriage to the school parties so I don't know where they left us, and a sparsely occupied carriage got busier as we headed down the next valley, more people getting on than off. We pulled into Margecany - scheduled 13:53 still a little behind scheduleOngoing passengers for the local train onward to Kosice transferred over (it may have been held a couple of minutes) and the local train to Strba called too a few minutes later, with the return train up the valley picking up its connecting passengers before it left - back on time, I think - certainly a planned connection that made.

I took the express back along the main line to Zilina (it was a loop I had done) and it left on time.  We were around 15 minutes late into Zilina - delay caused by some single line working past engineering works; we had to wait for a train coming the other way, and then a very slow approach to Zilina itself as the train snaked in over the few tracks currently in place.

So there you have it - for me as a passenger, it worked as I would have wanted it to.  All connections worked and there were no unplanned long waits.  Necessary track-work carried on without wholesale closure, bus help was provided where needed and the whole thing was a very pleasant experience.  And, no, I really wasn't worried about being 15 minutes or so late back into my digs.

Re: GWR Community Rail Conference - 24th June 2025
In "Across the West" [362603/30086/26]
Posted by grahame at 06:47, 24th June 2025
 
Hi Grahame

Can you supply a link to the community rail conference.

Thank you.

That needs to be a GWR invite I'm afraid as numbers are of necessity limited.   I'm pretty sure reports will appear on the Coffee Shop - indeed if I manage to connect (two connects pretty poor here) I'll tell you about it. I have chosen today as a non-travel day for the purpose.

Edit to add - as backup, I should also receive a recording to watch when better connected ... this hostel seems to have WiFi with a traffic limiter, so the Coffee Shop with its "thin" design works well but other things don't!

Re: 175s to GWR
In "Across the West" [362602/28982/26]
Posted by GBM at 06:37, 24th June 2025
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More training runs today between Plymouth and Newton Abbot 5D01, et seq..

Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury
In "TransWilts line" [362601/29726/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:14, 24th June 2025
Already liked by Witham Bobby
 
Perhaps questions for the GWR "VIPs" at the Community event tonight - along with asking why we are now moving from a situation where they don't provide sufficient staff to run their services at weekends, to a place where we have weekday, peak services regularly cancelled for the same reason, and what are they doing to address it? 

Re: Meeting people on trains
In "Introductions and chat" [362600/30388/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 06:07, 24th June 2025
 
... in English. 

CfN. 

 
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