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Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379105/28982/26]
Posted by old original at 13:57, 3rd September 2026
 
Temporary reduction in service from Monday 7th...

https://www.cornish-times.co.uk/news/train-gremlins-lead-to-gwr-announcing-cancellation-of-services-until-further-notice-942797

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379104/28982/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:56, 3rd September 2026
 
According to Modern Railways, GWR has announced a plan to improve the situation.

https://www.modernrailways.com/article/gwr-revises-175-plans

Great Western Railway’s Alstom Class 175 trains must now each complete 1,000 miles of trouble-free running before they are cleared to enter revenue-earning service. At the time of writing, just two trains, Nos 175003/115, are in regular operation with the operator.

Speaking to Modern Railways, GWR Programme Director Barry Milsom explained that the fleet’s period in storage after Transport for Wales Rail replaced them with Class 197s has led to a series of unexpected problems, despite the units being refurbished at Wolverton Works.

Water ingress from corrosion in the trains’ roofs is said to be leaking into electrical equipment, with door operating system failures a major – but not the only – issue affecting the fleet. Engine and suspension air bag replacements have had to take place on some trains, and air-conditioning units are also being refurbished by Alstom and the wider supply chain before trains enter traffic.

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despite the units being refurbished at Wolverton Works. - so am I reading this wrong, they were refurbed and then it was discovered they had corroded, leaking roofs etc or was that addressed as part of the refurb? (in which case why do they seem to be fit for little more than the scrapyard post refurb?)

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379103/28982/26]
Posted by bobm at 12:20, 3rd September 2026
 
According to Modern Railways, GWR has announced a plan to improve the situation.

https://www.modernrailways.com/article/gwr-revises-175-plans

Great Western Railway’s Alstom Class 175 trains must now each complete 1,000 miles of trouble-free running before they are cleared to enter revenue-earning service. At the time of writing, just two trains, Nos 175003/115, are in regular operation with the operator.

Speaking to Modern Railways, GWR Programme Director Barry Milsom explained that the fleet’s period in storage after Transport for Wales Rail replaced them with Class 197s has led to a series of unexpected problems, despite the units being refurbished at Wolverton Works.

Water ingress from corrosion in the trains’ roofs is said to be leaking into electrical equipment, with door operating system failures a major – but not the only – issue affecting the fleet. Engine and suspension air bag replacements have had to take place on some trains, and air-conditioning units are also being refurbished by Alstom and the wider supply chain before trains enter traffic.

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Re: Same word - different meanings - public transport context
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [379102/32449/20]
Posted by CyclingSid at 12:17, 3rd September 2026
 
7. Passenger v Customer

Reeks of consultant speak. If they are called passengers it reminds everybody what the object of the exercise is. Had similar situation in the health service, they are patients and want a medical issue sorted.

Customer tends lean towards a sales opportunity, coffee shops on stations, over-priced branches of M&S in hospitals.

5. What's the difference between reading (5a) and Reading (5b)?
. A play on words by the Kennet https://artuk.org/discover/artworks/reading-piece-303210/search/2026--works:reading-piece/page/1/view_as/grid

Re: Newquay Line - services, incidents and improvements (merged posts)
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379101/19772/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 10:40, 3rd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
GWR "Excuse bingo" in full force today!

But yet - if the reasons are all different, all the more of a nightmare to sort out.   Multiple problems, multiple fixes needed. I would not want to be the one trying to fix this - probably wouldn't have the ability - but then wouldn't command the sort of salary need for a problem solver either.

I do get to wondering if we have less innovative thinking to sort things out these days and more just "turn the wheels and gloss the paintwork"; whether that's a function of me becoming more cynical, of things getting harder for staff to do with more constraints on them, or a rather less or differently motivated approach by those involved.

Planned maintenance and workforce management?

Hardly radical concepts but these issues have been ongoing for years and didn't happen overnight.

GWR are the archetypal zombie franchise now and have been steadily deteriorating over recent months in these areas - doing enough to keep the lights on.................just.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379100/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 10:19, 3rd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
2Z28 arrived at Exeter and they didn't hold 2M77 the Bristol connection 10 minutes and it went 1/2 minute early.

Looks unfortunate - as I read it, that's the last train east from Exeter St David's?   Wouldn't have happened in the days that the services were through   al the way from Penzance to Bristol, but then in those days the performance figures for Bristol would have ended up worse with a late arrival.

Better late than never, as they say.

The train was late and the connecting train was not held so Penzance passengers could not get to Bristol. Perhaps GWR taxi them. Looking at the night train I thought they could wait for that but last night it went via Newbury, today it's going via Melksham!

Re: 'Surveillance pricing'.
In "Fare's Fair" [379099/32345/4]
Posted by ChrisB at 09:04, 3rd September 2026
 
Fuel surcharges thanks to Trump.....

Re: Newquay Line - services, incidents and improvements (merged posts)
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379098/19772/25]
Posted by grahame at 09:02, 3rd September 2026
 
GWR "Excuse bingo" in full force today!

But yet - if the reasons are all different, all the more of a nightmare to sort out.   Multiple problems, multiple fixes needed. I would not want to be the one trying to fix this - probably wouldn't have the ability - but then wouldn't command the sort of salary need for a problem solver either.

I do get to wondering if we have less innovative thinking to sort things out these days and more just "turn the wheels and gloss the paintwork"; whether that's a function of me becoming more cynical, of things getting harder for staff to do with more constraints on them, or a rather less or differently motivated approach by those involved.

Re: Newquay Line - services, incidents and improvements (merged posts)
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379097/19772/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:41, 3rd September 2026
 
09:03 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:27
09:03 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:27 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Lostwithiel, Par and Newquay.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

14:52 Newquay to London Paddington due 20:23
14:52 Newquay to London Paddington due 20:23 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Newquay, Par, Liskeard and Saltash.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Part of a story?

07:07 Par to Newquay due 07:58

07:07 Par to Newquay due 07:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

07:38 Exeter St Davids to Okehampton due 08:16

07:38 Exeter St Davids to Okehampton due 08:16 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40

13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

GWR "Excuse bingo" in full force today!

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379096/28982/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 08:40, 3rd September 2026
 
2Z28 arrived at Exeter and they didn't hold 2M77 the Bristol connection 10 minutes and it went 1/2 minute early.

Looks unfortunate - as I read it, that's the last train east from Exeter St David's?   Wouldn't have happened in the days that the services were through   al the way from Penzance to Bristol, but then in those days the performance figures for Bristol would have ended up worse with a late arrival.

Better late than never, as they say.

Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence.
In "Fare's Fair" [379095/32442/4]
Posted by grahame at 08:10, 3rd September 2026
Already liked by Western Pathfinder
 
Going slightly off topic,Trip advisor do the forums in alphabetical order,

just wish they would change it so if your in the U.K. its at the top, at the present time  the United Kingdom is at the bottom.

Further off topic e-bay use to have a system where you could push up your views on items you were selling.

But now views are counted as one user per item you are selling. 

Largely agreed - but these are tricky calls for the software developer at times.  People like a consistency rather than a menu that keeps changing around - I've been dealing with concerns on a Facebook group (not public transport) in recent days where a quiz night and a show from last year turned up high on the display because someone liked / commented on old posts.  Nearly had someone turn up for an event 365 days ago.

I would often like more control over the order I am offered things - but then I get frustrated by the way things move around in other places and that's sometimes because I have too much data / too many options.  I don't know what the solution is.

Re: Newquay Line - services, incidents and improvements (merged posts)
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379094/19772/25]
Posted by grahame at 08:03, 3rd September 2026
 
09:03 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:27
09:03 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:27 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Lostwithiel, Par and Newquay.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

14:52 Newquay to London Paddington due 20:23
14:52 Newquay to London Paddington due 20:23 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Newquay, Par, Liskeard and Saltash.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Part of a story?

07:07 Par to Newquay due 07:58

07:07 Par to Newquay due 07:58 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

07:38 Exeter St Davids to Okehampton due 08:16

07:38 Exeter St Davids to Okehampton due 08:16 has been cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40

13:39 Plymouth to Penzance due 15:40 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Re: Wanted - a bit of automated intelligence.
In "Fare's Fair" [379093/32442/4]
Posted by infoman at 07:15, 3rd September 2026
 
Going slightly off topic,Trip advisor do the forums in alphabetical order,

just wish they would change it so if your in the U.K. its at the top, at the present time  the United Kingdom is at the bottom.

Further off topic e-bay use to have a system where you could push up your views on items you were selling.

But now views are counted as one user per item you are selling. 

Re: Newquay Line - services, incidents and improvements (merged posts)
In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [379092/19772/25]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:08, 3rd September 2026
 
09:03 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:27
09:03 London Paddington to Newquay due 14:27 will be terminated at Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Liskeard, Bodmin Parkway, Lostwithiel, Par and Newquay.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

14:52 Newquay to London Paddington due 20:23
14:52 Newquay to London Paddington due 20:23 will be started from Plymouth.
It will no longer call at Newquay, Par, Liskeard and Saltash.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Re: 'Surveillance pricing'.
In "Fare's Fair" [379091/32345/4]
Posted by grahame at 07:05, 3rd September 2026
 

Covers EWR-LHR (Premium Economy)                                            US$376.00
...
Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ)                                                     US$560.00
Carrier-imposed surcharge (YR)                                                     US$22.00


Looks like a case of the tail wagging the dog. $588 out of $991.  Nearly 60% of what you're asked to pay is in this "surcharge" bucket ...

Re: What's the biggest saving you can make by splitting your tickets?
In "Fare's Fair" [379090/9439/4]
Posted by LiskeardRich at 06:59, 3rd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Western Pathfinder
 
Can’t remember the numbers now, but my biggest two have been:

Plymouth to Manchester.
Split Plymouth to Exeter st David’s, EXD to Newport (south wales). Newport to Manchester. GWR advance tickets to Newport were under a tenner from
Exeter, TFW Newport to Manchester wasn’t much more. Avoided Voyager which would have cost in the hundreds.

Plymouth to Gatwick.
Split at Totnes or Newton abbot, and add via honiton. The via honiton option didn’t appear to have been available from west of Totnes at the time. Saved a number over hundred, avoided cross London with a Clapham Junction connection. SWR 159 more comfortable than an IET. Win win win.

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379088/28982/26]
Posted by grahame at 06:28, 3rd September 2026
 
2Z28 arrived at Exeter and they didn't hold 2M77 the Bristol connection 10 minutes and it went 1/2 minute early.

Looks unfortunate - as I read it, that's the last train east from Exeter St David's?   Wouldn't have happened in the days that the services were through   al the way from Penzance to Bristol, but then in those days the performance figures for Bristol would have ended up worse with a late arrival.

Re: What's the biggest saving you can make by splitting your tickets?
In "Fare's Fair" [379087/9439/4]
Posted by grahame at 06:06, 3rd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
This topic has come up while researching "on this day" from 15 years ago ... and here we are 15 years later with the same apparently silly system still ongoing - indeed it has grown from a specialist thing that a small proportion of us use into something businesses are based on. 

Re: 'Surveillance pricing'.
In "Fare's Fair" [379086/32345/4]
Posted by 1st fan at 02:51, 3rd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
FYI that site won’t sell you tickets but it will give you the fare breakdown and the ticket rules

How to buy this ticket
Tickets cannot be purchased directly from ITA Software.
Provide this information to a travel agent to help them match the fares found.
Make sure to provide the exact booking and fare codes shown.
Fare for 1 adult
US$991.50
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.
This ticket is non-refundable.
Fare 1: Carrier OS NLY00DBO EWR to LON (rules)
Passenger type ADT, ONE-WAY fare, booking code N
Covers EWR-LHR (Premium Economy)                                            US$376.00
United States Passenger Civil Aviation Security Service                    US$5.60
US International Departure Tax (US)                                              US$23.40
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF)                                                  US$4.50
Carrier-imposed surcharge (YQ)                                                     US$560.00
Carrier-imposed surcharge (YR)                                                     US$22.00
Subtotal per passenger                                                                 US$991.50
Number of passengers
x1
Subtotal for 1 adult                                                                       US$991.50

It also shows the fare construct that if you’re booking with a Travel Agent you can send them.

Fare Construction (can be useful to travel agents)
EWR OS LON Q200.00 176.00NLY00DBO NUC 376.00 END ROE 1.00 XT 23.40US 5.60AY 560.00YQ 22.00YR 4.50XF EWR4.50
Total Airfare & Taxes
US$991.50

What I often do is find a fare on ITA, look at Google Flights to find the same one, and then once found, book using the link to an airline etc. on Google Flights

Re: Same word - different meanings - public transport context
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [379085/32449/20]
Posted by stuving at 23:32, 2nd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
5a. reading is a skill we learn - before or at school for the majority of us in the UK these days - that sets us up for life's progress in modern society

5b. Reading is a town in Berkshire, and one of the biggest railway interchanges in the region. South Western Railway, Cross Country, Great Western and Transport for London all operate scheduled passenger trains there, and for most people travelling, who's operating the train you arrive on and the train you leave on is of little practical consequence.  You just need to know who's website to drill down into for things like delay/repay claims, and if you're travelling as a group whether you groupsave ticket is valid on this or that operator.

There's more fun to be had with (in not in) Reading. Go one stop towards Waterloo and you reach Earley so, especially if you are not too picky about spellings ...

Obviously you can play games with announcements - "this train will soon arrive at at the next stop, Earley" - "but it's late!" But there was also a shop - the Reading Early Learning Centre - once on Broad Street and then inside Mothercare (now it's just branding inside The Entertainer and both Tesco Extras). I have not yet discovered the adult literacy service that operated at the Earley Learning Reading Centre, but surely it must have existed?

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379084/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 22:52, 2nd September 2026
 
2Z28 arrived at Exeter and they didn't hold 2M77 the Bristol connection 10 minutes and it went 1/2 minute early.

Re: BRTA, Westbury Forum, 9th May 2026
In "Diary - what's happening when?" [379083/31418/34]
Posted by grahame at 22:49, 2nd September 2026

Batteries Included! 507001 overpowers its third rail limitation
In "Campaigns for new and improved services" [379082/32451/28]
Posted by grahame at 22:24, 2nd September 2026
 
From the class 507 preservation society

A milestone in electric railway preservation was achieved yesterday by the Class 507 Preservation Society – the first conversion of a preserved electric multiple unit to battery operation in Britain.

507001 successfully ran under its own power, without a third rail, in tests at Alstom’s Litchurch Lane works in Derby, paving the way for future operation on a heritage railway. This feat has been made possible thanks to the fitment of batteries inside the train’s driving cars. These batteries can power the train’s traction motors and compressor (which supplies air to the brakes), removing the need for a third rail power supply. This modification means the train can run under its own power on unelectrified railways, including the many heritage lines across the country.

On the afternoon of 1st September, the three-car train completed several test runs on the works’ internal railway lines. Over the course of three hours, it travelled a distance of 2.8 miles at speeds of up to 8 mph, all on a single charge.

Continues

Re: Bristol Temple Meads - station, facilities, incidents and events (merged posts)
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [379081/10737/21]
Posted by Noggin at 22:00, 2nd September 2026
 
Passed through their yesterday
I am intrigued how much use it will get and how much increased footfall there will be going the opposite way to normal at the station

The estimate was 2m people p/a - so 20% of station users-ish

Apart from the new University building, there are a couple of big new student housing developments, there will be a new school in operation from September 2027 and as discussed elsewhere, the number 8 bus will have a new stand at the eastern edge of the station. 

Re: Change to Number 8 service at Temple Meads
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [379080/32445/5]
Posted by Noggin at 21:54, 2nd September 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
The stop's already on Google maps, it looks to be about 160 yards from the new entrance. Given that this is Bristol Temple Meads, if we look at walking distances from the locations used to halt many of the shorter trains at the ends of the station platforms, they're about a 400 yard walk from the new location for the number 8 bus - about a 100 yard increase on the previous.

(Streetview of the stop's location is... bleak, but that's because in 2023 it was a building site, hopefully it's now tamed...)

Mark

If you look at the route map, there are two stops for the number 8 bus - the first is the existing southbound 1/2/172/376 etc on Temple Way, the other is the new Feeder Road stop by the new eastern entrance to the station.

Re: Same word - different meanings - public transport context
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [379079/32449/20]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 21:33, 2nd September 2026
 
Maybe we chant together for a more reliable and frequent service!


This image is a fictional representation of us singing in a the Coffee Shop

Midnight train to Georgia?

Re: Class 175s to Great Western Railway (GWR)
In "Across the West" [379078/28982/26]
Posted by REVUpminster at 21:13, 2nd September 2026
 
2E28 cancelled at Truro empty to Laira as 5E28. 2Z28 in it's timings 27 late.

Nothing has come out of Wolverton for ten weeks. Will Hopgood be ever on Cornwall Radio again. Jethro passed on.

Re: Same word - different meanings - public transport context
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [379077/32449/20]
Posted by bobm at 21:04, 2nd September 2026
 
Third rail and overhead.  Brings a new meaning to bi-mode. 

Re: Same word - different meanings - public transport context
In "Portsmouth to Cardiff" [379076/32449/20]
Posted by grahame at 20:54, 2nd September 2026
 
Do I need to count the fingers?

Look right to me ... though I wonder about the third rail in this concept picture from the same stable


 
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