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Re: Too young to travel on that ticket? In "Fare's Fair" [360588/30155/4] Posted by bobm at 20:21, 16th April 2025 Already liked by grahame | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Only last week I travelled on a groupsave with one of the adults actually being a seven year old child.
What the story doesn’t say is how much an adult ticket is. Most family tickets are more expensive, even if only slightly, than an adult travelling on their own.
Re: Cambridge Guided Busway - ongoing discussion and updates (merged topic) In "Buses and other ways to travel" [360586/3987/5] Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 20:04, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
An update, from the BBC:
Council fined millions after three busway deaths

Kathleen Pitts (left), Steve Moir (centre) and Jennifer Taylor (right) all died in collisions with buses
A council has been fined £6m after three deaths on the world's longest guided busway.
Jennifer Taylor, Steve Moir and Kathleen Pitts died after collisions on the Cambridgeshire busway between 2015 and 2021.
Sentencing Cambridgeshire County Council at Cambridge Crown Court, Judge Mark Bishop criticised the authority for its "rigid and blinkered response" to the fatalities, as well as numerous near-misses and accidents.
The authority previously admitted two safety breaches and said it was "truly sorry". It was ordered to pay the fine over three years.
Cambridgeshire County Council runs the transport link that serves Cambridge, St Ives and Huntingdon. It opened in 2011 and much of the 16-mile (26km) route involves a modified bus being guided along a track.
Ms Taylor, 81, was hit by a bus when she crossed the track on foot at Fen Drayton in November 2015.
Mr Moir, 50, fell into the path of a bus after clipping a kerb with his bicycle that separated him from the busway in Cambridge, in September 2018.
Pedestrian Kathleen Pitts, 52, was struck by a bus on the same stretch in October 2021.
A fourth person, Leon Leeson, was left with memory loss, a broken collarbone, a tear in his liver and the loss of hearing in one ear, following an incident.
The county council previously admitted two charges under Section 3 of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974, relating to the public trying to cross the busway at designated crossings and being struck while moving alongside the busway.
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Kathleen Pitts (left), Steve Moir (centre) and Jennifer Taylor (right) all died in collisions with buses
A council has been fined £6m after three deaths on the world's longest guided busway.
Jennifer Taylor, Steve Moir and Kathleen Pitts died after collisions on the Cambridgeshire busway between 2015 and 2021.
Sentencing Cambridgeshire County Council at Cambridge Crown Court, Judge Mark Bishop criticised the authority for its "rigid and blinkered response" to the fatalities, as well as numerous near-misses and accidents.
The authority previously admitted two safety breaches and said it was "truly sorry". It was ordered to pay the fine over three years.
Cambridgeshire County Council runs the transport link that serves Cambridge, St Ives and Huntingdon. It opened in 2011 and much of the 16-mile (26km) route involves a modified bus being guided along a track.
Ms Taylor, 81, was hit by a bus when she crossed the track on foot at Fen Drayton in November 2015.
Mr Moir, 50, fell into the path of a bus after clipping a kerb with his bicycle that separated him from the busway in Cambridge, in September 2018.
Pedestrian Kathleen Pitts, 52, was struck by a bus on the same stretch in October 2021.
A fourth person, Leon Leeson, was left with memory loss, a broken collarbone, a tear in his liver and the loss of hearing in one ear, following an incident.
The county council previously admitted two charges under Section 3 of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974, relating to the public trying to cross the busway at designated crossings and being struck while moving alongside the busway.
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Really is time for some stirring on this, major embarassment for someone, surely some resolution could bave been sorted by now. Last I heard it was power supply issues but .....
Too young to travel on that ticket? In "Fare's Fair" [360583/30155/4] Posted by grahame at 17:38, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From The BBC
A tram inspector told a mum using a family ticket that she could be fined because her baby and toddler were "too young" to be classed as children.
Cassie took the Metrolink into Manchester city centre from Droylsden in Tameside earlier this month for a church service with her husband and their two children.
Using a £7.10 off-peak family day travel card, Cassie was told by a ticket inspector that because under-fives travel for free, they did not count as "children" under ticketing terms and conditions.
Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) has since apologised and said it would "make sure that all staff are aware that there is no minimum age for children travelling on a family ticket".
Cassie took the Metrolink into Manchester city centre from Droylsden in Tameside earlier this month for a church service with her husband and their two children.
Using a £7.10 off-peak family day travel card, Cassie was told by a ticket inspector that because under-fives travel for free, they did not count as "children" under ticketing terms and conditions.
Transport for Greater Manchester (TfGM) has since apologised and said it would "make sure that all staff are aware that there is no minimum age for children travelling on a family ticket".
an interesting twist on ticket ages
Did your realise that an "adult" ticket is acceptable at any age? For 2 adults and a child travelling together, the cheapest way (GWR and some others, but not XC) can be a Groupsave if during Groupsave hours.
There will be buses linking Axminster, Seaton and Beer on Sundays and Bank Holidays starting 20 April thanks to funding from South Western Railway.
Route 379 operated by Stagecoach South West will run three round trips between Axminster Trinity Square, Axminster Station, Colyton, Seaton and Beer on Sundays and Bank Holidays until 26 October.
Buses will connect with trains at Axminster station. There will be a special fare of £1 Single for those holding valid rail tickets. Otherwise, normal fares apply with a maximum single fare of £3 thanks to the Government fare cap.
More information here https://dcrp.org.uk/new-sunday-and-bank-holiday-buses-between-axminster-station-seaton-and-beer-start-on-20-april/
Re: St Erth station - facilities, footbridge, improvements, incidents and awards (merged posts) In "Shorter journeys in Plymouth and Cornwall" [360581/3828/25] Posted by GBM at 11:32, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yes - for passenger purposes. When planned works or an emergency stoppage take place between Westbury and Reading, trains to / from the South West get diverted either via Bristol Temple Meads or via Melksham. The very long distance expresses often go via Bristol, but the semi-fasts always go via Melksham so that a service can be maintained from Castle Cary and Westbury into Reading and London, and they'll be able to call at Trowbridge, Melksham and Chippenham and reduce the need for some of the rail replacement buses and taxis.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [360579/29726/18] Posted by matth1j at 10:31, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Presumably IETs can now stop there which will come in handy when they’re diverted for whatever reason.
Probably a daft question... I can only imagine that they'd want to stop at a specific point relative to the platform (on a single track line) to allow passengers on/off. But under what circumstances would they do that?
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360578/29711/14] Posted by IndustryInsider at 10:25, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm told that they won't even be learning Stoke Gifford to Worcester, so the Worcester/Oxford drivers will sign that (with a taxi trip from/to their depot), or a hand-over maybe at Cheltenham, for example?....
If you do it that way, then there's one night-time duty for Worcester, taking the 5G36 from Shrub Hill (21:58) to Stoke Gifford (23:40) and coming back with 3G18 04:42 from Stoke Gifford to Shrub Hill (06:31) That might well be how they do it, Worcester_Passenger. Although don't forget Gloucester drivers also sign the route from Worcester to Bristol.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360577/29711/14] Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:12, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm hearing that Bristol drivers are losing driving knowledge for the North Cotswold Line at the May timetable change, so only Worcester & Oxford drivers will be signing the line after that.
So Bristol drivers take IETs out of Stoke Gifford & pass stock over to Worcester drivers when heading to the North Cotswolds....
Expect driver shortages....who's idea was that, I wonder?
So Bristol drivers take IETs out of Stoke Gifford & pass stock over to Worcester drivers when heading to the North Cotswolds....
Expect driver shortages....who's idea was that, I wonder?
Genius
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Re: Spreading wings for a few days In "Introductions and chat" [360576/30134/1] Posted by grahame at 09:50, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A lovely weekend based in Saltash and 000s more pictures to share - BUT - coffee spilled in my laptop "Cato" (and it was excellent coffee to waste) was also terminal to Cato.
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Greetings from Kryten ... now in training / learning mode. Quiet day at home (though I will get out for my mile). Visitor expected today has been in touch to let us know that she won't be with us as her mum has been rushed into hospital and it's when you hear things like that ... that you realise just how "small" a problem with a laptop is.
Re: Firstgroup's rail division trading 'ahead of expectations' In "Across the West" [360574/30153/26] Posted by ChrisB at 09:28, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
This Is Money's take on the same story
FirstGroup will 'double' private rail operations to counter Government's nationalisation push
FirstGroup has upgraded 2025 profit guidance after a better than expected showing from its rail division over the last year.
The FTSE 250 Avanti West Coast and Great Western Railway owner expects higher than forecast variable operator fees from the Department of Transport, while its non-taxpayer funded open access operations continued to perform well.
The Government passed a bill last year that will bring rail passenger services back into public ownership by appointing a public sector operator when existing contracts expire.
While the timing of nationalisations has not been confirmed, FirstGroup's South Western Railway and Great Western Railway will see DfT contracts expire in May and June, respectively.
Avanti West Coast's contract expires in October next year.
FirstGroup said its open access operations like Lumo and Hull Trains, which manage trains on mainline routes without government funding, had benefited from 'strong demand, effective yield management and continued high levels of customer satisfaction'.
It has acquired track access rights for two new open access services and signed a £500million agreement to lease 14 new UK-manufactured trains, to facilitate the growth of its open access operations.
Boss Graham Sutherland said First Rail has agreements in place to 'double the size of our open access operations with potential to go much further'.
Its First Bus division also saw revenue accelerate in the second half, buoyed by the January introduction of the £3 fare cap in England and the December acquisition of RATP London.
FirstGroup re-entered the London bus market with a 12 per cent share after agreeing the takeover worth £90million.
The firm said: 'Reflecting the stronger financial performance in First Rail and in-line performance at First Bus, the Group anticipates that its FY 2025 adjusted operating profit and adjusted earnings per share will be ahead of the Group's previous expectations.'
It added that its balance sheet 'remains strong' and it expects net debt to come in lower than expected at £85million to £90million for the 12 months to 29 March.
Sutherland said: 'We have continued our strong financial and operational delivery in the second half of our financial year and have committed significant capital to further grow and diversify our portfolio.'
FirstGroup shares were up 1.8 per cent to 162.1p in early trading, trimming 2025 losses to 0.6 per cent.
FirstGroup has upgraded 2025 profit guidance after a better than expected showing from its rail division over the last year.
The FTSE 250 Avanti West Coast and Great Western Railway owner expects higher than forecast variable operator fees from the Department of Transport, while its non-taxpayer funded open access operations continued to perform well.
The Government passed a bill last year that will bring rail passenger services back into public ownership by appointing a public sector operator when existing contracts expire.
While the timing of nationalisations has not been confirmed, FirstGroup's South Western Railway and Great Western Railway will see DfT contracts expire in May and June, respectively.
Avanti West Coast's contract expires in October next year.
FirstGroup said its open access operations like Lumo and Hull Trains, which manage trains on mainline routes without government funding, had benefited from 'strong demand, effective yield management and continued high levels of customer satisfaction'.
It has acquired track access rights for two new open access services and signed a £500million agreement to lease 14 new UK-manufactured trains, to facilitate the growth of its open access operations.
Boss Graham Sutherland said First Rail has agreements in place to 'double the size of our open access operations with potential to go much further'.
Its First Bus division also saw revenue accelerate in the second half, buoyed by the January introduction of the £3 fare cap in England and the December acquisition of RATP London.
FirstGroup re-entered the London bus market with a 12 per cent share after agreeing the takeover worth £90million.
The firm said: 'Reflecting the stronger financial performance in First Rail and in-line performance at First Bus, the Group anticipates that its FY 2025 adjusted operating profit and adjusted earnings per share will be ahead of the Group's previous expectations.'
It added that its balance sheet 'remains strong' and it expects net debt to come in lower than expected at £85million to £90million for the 12 months to 29 March.
Sutherland said: 'We have continued our strong financial and operational delivery in the second half of our financial year and have committed significant capital to further grow and diversify our portfolio.'
FirstGroup shares were up 1.8 per cent to 162.1p in early trading, trimming 2025 losses to 0.6 per cent.
Is the bus wheelchair friendly?
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360572/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 08:42, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm told that they won't even be learning Stoke Gifford to Worcester, so the Worcester/Oxford drivers will sign that (with a taxi trip from/to their depot), or a hand-over maybe at Cheltenham, for example?....
If you do it that way, then there's one night-time duty for Worcester, taking the 5G36 from Shrub Hill (21:58) to Stoke Gifford (23:40) and coming back with 3G18 04:42 from Stoke Gifford to Shrub Hill (06:31) Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360571/29711/14] Posted by ChrisB at 08:25, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm told that they won't even be learning Stoke Gifford to Worcester, so the Worcester/Oxford drivers will sign that (with a taxi trip from/to their depot), or a hand-over maybe at Cheltenham, for example?....
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [360570/29726/18] Posted by grahame at 08:17, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I see Melksham now has IET stop boards on the platform.
Presumably IETs can now stop there which will come in handy when they’re diverted for whatever reason.
Presumably IETs can now stop there which will come in handy when they’re diverted for whatever reason.
I understand that is the plan

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360569/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 07:59, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
At present, there's only one empty stock movement from Stoke Gifford to the North Cotswold line in the morning, 3G18 04:42 Stoke Gifford to Great Malvern, which forms 1P18 07:13 Great Malvern to London Paddington. The empty stock is at Shrub Hill at 06:31.
There's two return workings in the evening.
5G36 21:23 Great Malvern to Stoke Gifford (at Shrub Hill at 21:58) is the empty stock from 1W36 18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern (21:18).
5G29 22:21 Worcester Shrub Hill to Stoke Gifford (23:45) is the empty stock from 1G29 19:36 London Paddington to Worcester Shrub Hill via Stroud.
The two Great Malvern movements would have to be done with the driver doing the 'other' half of the working (back to Stoke Gifford in the morning and out from there in the evening) either 'on the cushions' or in a taxi.
If you're going to expand the establishment of drivers at Worcester, then it makes more sense for this stock to be parked overnight at Shrub Hill.
Re: 2025 - Service update and amendment log, Swindon <-> Westbury In "TransWilts line" [360568/29726/18] Posted by a-driver at 07:28, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I see Melksham now has IET stop boards on the platform.
Presumably IETs can now stop there which will come in handy when they’re diverted for whatever reason.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360567/29711/14] Posted by Timmer at 07:14, 16th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
All part of a depot wide review on routes. Worcester is expanding and Oxford has a fair bit of spare capacity, so it might not be the worst idea in the world as they only cover a handful of trains over the route. Time will tell.
Let’s hope that review included having more Bristol based drivers signing the Berks and Hants again so we don’t see a repeat of the vastly reduced Sunday timetable that the last two times the line between Swindon and Didcot has been closed for engineering work.Lifts still not commissioned. Bus from down side to upside/branch has been booked for the summer season.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360565/29711/14] Posted by IndustryInsider at 21:30, 15th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Expect driver shortages....whose idea was that, I wonder?
All part of a depot wide review on routes. Worcester is expanding and Oxford has a fair bit of spare capacity, so it might not be the worst idea in the world as they only cover a handful of trains over the route. Time will tell.
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360564/29711/14] Posted by ChrisB at 21:19, 15th April 2025 Already liked by Witham Bobby | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I'm hearing that Bristol drivers are losing driving knowledge for the North Cotswold Line at the May timetable change, so only Worcester & Oxford drivers will be signing the line after that.
So Bristol drivers take IETs out of Stoke Gifford & pass stock over to Worcester drivers when heading to the North Cotswolds....
Expect driver shortages....who's idea was that, I wonder?
Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2025 In "London to the Cotswolds" [360563/29711/14] Posted by Worcester_Passenger at 21:05, 15th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
15:18 Worcester Foregate Street to London Paddington due 17:29 has been delayed at Worcester Shrub Hill and is now 22 minutes late.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:15/04/2025 15:58
16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:15/04/2025 15:58
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:15/04/2025 15:58
16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Worcester Shrub Hill.
This is due to a late running train being in front of this one.
Last Updated:15/04/2025 15:58
A confession, have not been west of Truro since Feb, can someone update the status of the lifts at St Erth? The season is approaching it'll be maddening if they aren't in service when peak loads appear.
Firstgroup's rail division trading 'ahead of expectations' In "Across the West" [360561/30153/26] Posted by ChrisB at 20:57, 15th April 2025 | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
From Business Live, via MSN
Firstgroup's rail division has been performing better than anticipated, despite the UK government's radical reforms of the railway network that are raising industry-wide concerns.
On Tuesday, the publicly-traded transport company acknowledged that revenues from the Department for Transport (DfT) for contracted train operators surpassed previous projections, as reported by City AM.
The firm is also experiencing "strong demand" in its open access services, which are delivered by Lumo and Hull Trains.
Within the half-year period, Firstgroup secured access rights for two additional open access services and cemented a £500 million deal to lease 14 new trains manufactured in the UK.
However, the company has issued several warnings indicating that the establishment of the state-run Great British Railways (GBR) might constraint the expansion of open access services.
In comments to the DfT submitted on Monday, Firstgroup expressed apprehension that GBR could display "adverse monopolistic" behaviour, advocating for the Office of Rail and Road (ORR) regulator, responsible for approving new routes, to be "empowered to adjudicate fairly and impartially with fair, transparent and open decision-making."
Graham Sutherland, the head of Firstgroup, mentioned existing agreements that would allow them to double their open access operations with possibilities for even further growth.
In a reflective statement, Firstgroup declared its balance sheet remains "strong," projecting its net debts to fall between £85 and £90 million by the year's end.
At First Bus, the company predicts a two per cent rise in passenger numbers, with revenue from First Bus London expected to reach between £300m and £350m annually. The firm also anticipates maintaining its adjusted earnings per share in 2026.
"We have continued our strong financial and operational delivery in the second half of our financial year and have committed significant capital to further grow and diversify our portfolio," Sutherland stated.
On Tuesday, the publicly-traded transport company acknowledged that revenues from the Department for Transport (DfT) for contracted train operators surpassed previous projections, as reported by City AM.
The firm is also experiencing "strong demand" in its open access services, which are delivered by Lumo and Hull Trains.
Within the half-year period, Firstgroup secured access rights for two additional open access services and cemented a £500 million deal to lease 14 new trains manufactured in the UK.
However, the company has issued several warnings indicating that the establishment of the state-run Great British Railways (GBR) might constraint the expansion of open access services.
In comments to the DfT submitted on Monday, Firstgroup expressed apprehension that GBR could display "adverse monopolistic" behaviour, advocating for the Office of Rail and Road (ORR) regulator, responsible for approving new routes, to be "empowered to adjudicate fairly and impartially with fair, transparent and open decision-making."
Graham Sutherland, the head of Firstgroup, mentioned existing agreements that would allow them to double their open access operations with possibilities for even further growth.
In a reflective statement, Firstgroup declared its balance sheet remains "strong," projecting its net debts to fall between £85 and £90 million by the year's end.
At First Bus, the company predicts a two per cent rise in passenger numbers, with revenue from First Bus London expected to reach between £300m and £350m annually. The firm also anticipates maintaining its adjusted earnings per share in 2026.
"We have continued our strong financial and operational delivery in the second half of our financial year and have committed significant capital to further grow and diversify our portfolio," Sutherland stated.