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Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377802/32318/31]
Posted by stuving at 00:02, 5th August 2026
 
The general idea in France, at least, is specifically to cover some of the extra costs incurred by the local authority - roads and parking, cleaning and rubbish bins, and the like. Otherwise these are paid by the residents, only a few of whom make money off those visitors which could be taxed as an alternative.

That's not all their costs for visitors, and in some places day trippers (who don't pay it) are more important. But that's just a further problem, as yet unsolved. The visitor tax is seen as addressing part of the shortfall, at least.

However, I don't think that is why it's found favour with Andy and his supporters in Andyland (Andymia?). I think its real attraction as something to do at once is that it is (and can only really be) a local tax, paid to local government. And devolution is one of his Big Ideas, perhaps the biggest, and needs a lot of locally raised government revenue.

Since the plan requires local taxes, set and controlled locally, a block grant doesn't have the right look and feel. Shifting existing taxes over (or down) to local level will not be easy, involving undoing current arrangements to remake them, and replacing lost revenu in some cases.

So a new tax is more attractive, even if it is quite small in revenue terms and so makes almost no contribution to the financial autonomy of local governments. The idea's the thing! But I don't think the need or desire to tax visitors because they must have money to be taxed is important here.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377801/31163/26]
Posted by ray951 at 20:39, 4th August 2026
 
Looks like quite a mess this evening.
It was, down to one Oxford - London service per hour which was usually running late and no stopping services all day between Didcot and Oxford.

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377800/32318/31]
Posted by RailCornwall at 20:37, 4th August 2026
 
It's widely used abroad, providing it is used to recoup some of the costs associated with discretionary expenditure on leisure stays I'm fine. It must however be reclaimable by business travellers and contractors engaged on construction and maintenance. Additionally virtually all of the take must go to the relevant local authority and not added to central funds and distributed by central government. There are many documented cases of visitors to Cornwall staying in self catering accomodation arriving with their food and not contributing in any way to the area of their holiday. If these are captured it'll be a good thing.

Re: 16-17 Railcard - validity extension for 18 year olds
In "Fare's Fair" [377799/32321/4]
Posted by RailCornwall at 19:26, 4th August 2026
Already liked by Chris from Nailsea
 
Makes sense considering the numbers over 18 in full time education.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377798/31163/26]
Posted by BBM at 18:56, 4th August 2026
 
AFAICS from Open Train Times, the stationary 1J93 18:08 Paddington to Frome has been blocking the DM at Twyford for over 20 minutes with a queue of trains behind it.

EDIT: now moving with 28 minutes delay and with three other trains closely following behind.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377797/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:40, 4th August 2026
 
17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06

17:50 Gloucester to Salisbury due 20:06 will be terminated at Swindon.

It will no longer call at Stonehouse, Stroud, Kemble, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Dilton Marsh, Warminster and Salisbury.

It is being delayed at Gloucester.
This is due to a broken down train.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377796/31163/26]
Posted by NickB at 17:55, 4th August 2026
 
Looks like quite a mess this evening.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377795/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:28, 4th August 2026
 
Alterations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:15 04/08.

Customer Advice
Owing to a problem with a section of track near London Paddington, fewer trains are able to operate between London Paddington and Reading.

Update "Disruption is expected until the end of the day"

Interesting "What3Words"
In "The Lighter Side" [377794/32322/30]
Posted by bobm at 17:03, 4th August 2026
 
I probably have too much time on my hands, but came across this combination of words for the steam railway ticket office in Kingswear - vocal.stooping.paramedic

Anyone else found some standout ones?



Re: Interrail trip 4 - the journey continues
In "Introductions and chat" [377793/32275/1]
Posted by grahame at 15:24, 4th August 2026
Already liked by rogerw
 
We allowed half an hour to change in Frankfurt - but I don't think our connection will have been held.


Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377792/32318/31]
Posted by grahame at 15:12, 4th August 2026
 
I have posted further comment - as both a hotel user and a past hotel operator - at https://grahamellis.uk/blog2041.html

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377791/32318/31]
Posted by grahame at 14:47, 4th August 2026
 
I would support this tax, provided that it is confined to limited areas that are very popular with visitors and therefore prone to overcrowding.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.

Hotels already pay for the water and energy they use.  Roads, car parks, public transport more arguable.

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377790/32318/31]
Posted by broadgage at 14:19, 4th August 2026
 
I would support this tax, provided that it is confined to limited areas that are very popular with visitors and therefore prone to overcrowding.
Hotels use a lot of water and energy and should contribute to the capital costs of providing this.
Similar arguments apply to roads, car parks, and public transport.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377789/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:55, 4th August 2026
 
Alterations to services between Reading and London Paddington

Due to a points failure between Reading and London Paddington fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 16:15 04/08.

Customer Advice
Owing to a problem with a section of track near London Paddington, fewer trains are able to operate between London Paddington and Reading.

Re: Bath to Melksham on a Sunday
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [377788/32317/5]
Posted by Mark A at 12:57, 4th August 2026
 
Thanks for the info on the service revival's early years. I seem to recall two weekday services of an evening that allowed a quick circular trip via Melksham from Bath for anyone needing a fix of train travel after work - with enough time to leap off at Melksham for a bite to eat before heading back for the second train. Thinking back to the early 2000s it would be pretty good, today, to have some of the train services that Bath had then** but it's really good that Melksham now has a somewhat more rounded timetable than it did at that time.

Mark

** Full disclosure: heading for the line to Buxton in the nineties we suddenly realised that there was a weekday loco-and-carriages service from Reading to Manchester that, on the way, at 8:30 in the morning, called at Oldfield Park, fitting our ideal travel itinerary like a glove.

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [377787/31371/14]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:35, 4th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Tuesday 4th August

08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

Last Updated:04/08/2026 04:14

RTT shows 1G01 0632 Swindon to Worcester Shrub Hill as being cancelled "due to the planned train being replaced with a slower train (MS)."

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377786/32318/31]
Posted by Witham Bobby at 10:28, 4th August 2026
 
It's not as if our politicos don't already have their hands deep enough into our pockets and then find ways to waste what they've extracted

Re: The Second Severn Crossing's monorail: main span walkway + a pylon.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377785/32320/31]
Posted by chuffed at 08:46, 4th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Great video ...the moment at the end 26 mins in or thereabouts made me think of Dr McCoy's ' It's life Jim, but not as we know it !', Absolutely fascinating from start to finish.

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377784/32318/31]
Posted by Bob_Blakey at 07:31, 4th August 2026
 
That's a definite 'No' from me. I wouldn't object quite so much if the government wasn't wasting lots of our money elsewhere.

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377783/32318/31]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 07:00, 4th August 2026
Already liked by JayMac
 
It's a firm "No" from me.

It would seem this Government is doing its level best to destroy the hospitality sector already, the last thing it needs is another regressive tax.

I don't doubt your views, but is it really regressive? Pay per head 'x-amount' is equal, and therefore is neither progressive nor regressive.

A regressive tax is structured so that individuals with lower incomes pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes compared to higher-income individuals, even if the absolute amount paid is the same. It does not consider the person's ability to pay.

This tax is a textbook example of a regressive tax.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [377782/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 06:55, 4th August 2026
 
Cancellations to services between Oxford and Didcot Parkway

Due to a tree blocking the railway between Oxford and Didcot Parkway the line towards Didcot Parkway is blocked.
Train services running through these stations may be cancelled, delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until the end of the day.

16-17 Railcard - validity extension for 18 year olds
In "Fare's Fair" [377781/32321/4]
Posted by grahame at 06:48, 4th August 2026
 
From the BBC

Eighteen-year-olds will be able to buy half price train tickets for most services when railcard rules are changed later this month, the Department for Transport (DfT) has announced.

It's an extension of the 16-17 Saver railcard which currently expires when the holder turns 18. From 17 August, they will be valid for a full year from the date of purchase.

It means 17-year-olds will be able to buy the railcard up until the day before they turn 18, making it valid until the day before they turn 19.

The existing rule meant more than 70,000 students each year were an average of £175 worse off than those in the same academic year who hadn't yet had their 18th birthday, the DfT said.

The 16-17 Saver Railcard costs £35 per year and entitles the holder to 50% off most train fares.

Rail minister Lord Hendy claimed this "common sense change" is "exactly what passengers should expect from the railway".

Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [377780/18525/10]
Posted by grahame at 06:43, 4th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Might be getting off at Bath and catching the bus at this rate, don't really want to miss the 18:00 Melksham service at Chippenham and wait another hour.
Wise call
Yep - too late for the 1748 bus so had to be the 1818, which was about 5 mins late. But thanks to the bus stop at the other end being closer to home than the train station I was only about 25 mins later than usual, and less sweaty Delay-repay will cover the bus fare.

Yep, there's only one railway station in Melksham and a hundred bus stops - and with no buses at all calling at the stop at the station - so (and it applies to Lisa and me to) that final leg from the longer distance railway journey to our  front door can be surprisingly efficient changing to a bus in a neighbouring town.   

Re: Paddington <-> Bristol: service updates and amendments - ongoing discussion
In "London to Swindon and Bristol" [377779/18525/10]
Posted by JohnM at 06:31, 4th August 2026
 
Might be getting off at Bath and catching the bus at this rate, don't really want to miss the 18:00 Melksham service at Chippenham and wait another hour.
Wise call
Yep - too late for the 1748 bus so had to be the 1818, which was about 5 mins late. But thanks to the bus stop at the other end being closer to home than the train station I was only about 25 mins later than usual, and less sweaty Delay-repay will cover the bus fare.

Re: The Second Severn Crossing's monorail: main span walkway + a pylon.
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377778/32320/31]
Posted by stuving at 00:13, 4th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
There's also a monorail in at least one of the national grid electricity tunnels under London. The main reasons are the distance and lack of access shafts, and saving of time. There is an IanVisits article about this.


One thing I have never found out is whether this has any use for pulling new cables into place when a cable is to be added or replaced. And I expect there are similar things hiding in other big bits of linear infrastructure.

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377777/32318/31]
Posted by Ralph Ayres at 23:10, 3rd August 2026
Already liked by Mark A, Witham Bobby
 
I would object strongly; it feels very unwelcoming. When I spend time somewhere I'm already contributing to the local economy and employment whenever I spend any money. I will almost certainly be spending more per day on many things (eating out, entertainment, attractions) than the locals do.  Not my fault if the current tax regime doesn't pass that on effectively, and why charge overnight visitors but not those who just come for the day, except that they are an easy target?

On a related note, my local council gives reduced car park rates to us residents.  That does make me a little uncomfortable and feels Little Britain-ish ("local car parks for local people").  Don't we want to encourage people from elsewhere to come into the borough to spend their money here and help our local economy?  It also does nothing to encourage local residents to leave their car at home and use our pretty good public transport (outer W London) or walk/cycle for those local journeys.

PS Going somewhere on holiday in the UK isn't a staycation!  For me it's a perfectly normal holiday, abroad being very much the exception as I haven't run out of UK places I want to see for the first time or return to.

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377776/32318/31]
Posted by Oxonhutch at 21:58, 3rd August 2026
Already liked by JayMac
 
It's a firm "No" from me.

It would seem this Government is doing its level best to destroy the hospitality sector already, the last thing it needs is another regressive tax.

I don't doubt your views, but is it really regressive? Pay per head 'x-amount' is equal, and therefore is neither progressive nor regressive.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377775/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 21:54, 3rd August 2026
 
20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06

20:06 Westbury to Cheltenham Spa due 22:06 has been delayed at Westbury and is now 24 minutes late.
This is due to a fault on this train which is now fixed.

Driver's cab has cooled off enough as temperatures drop in the evening to make it bearable? 

Re: Room tax? Proposed by the new government plans
In "The West - but NOT trains in the West" [377774/32318/31]
Posted by grahame at 21:46, 3rd August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
For comparison, the French taxe de séjour can be set by each commune within a nationally defined range. For hotels it is (this year) 0.5€ to 1.7€ for 3 star, from about half to double that for 1-5 star. It's paid via the hotel per night and per adult - none for under-18s. Things like camping, gites, and moorings are less. The list I've found does not have holiday rentals - my memory suggests it was similar to the 2 star rate.

It is still defined as for tourists, and while the range of places than can use it has been broadened it is still not available to everywhere. There are a lot of exclusions, e.g. for seasonal staff in resorts.

And here is the paperwork example for Zittau from last week ... 2 night stay, 2 adults 2x2=4 pages like this to complete



On a previous visit, I can recall being "let off" - "it doesn't apply" when I admitted to being there partly to see how they do public transport - "learning".  Ironically, I actually wanted to pay to get my local bus pass!

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [377773/31359/18]
Posted by grahame at 21:35, 3rd August 2026
 
21:16 Westbury to Swindon due 21:58
22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12

Facilities on the 22:31 Swindon to Westbury due 23:12.
Will be formed of 3 coaches instead of 2.

 
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