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Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378269/17260/5]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 20:44, 14th August 2026
 
One can only hope that there are no crew shortages, and that there are not more buses than usual requiring repairs at the same time.

Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [378268/24927/21]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:50, 14th August 2026
 
It's rather reminiscent of the 'Portishead Line reopening for passengers', which has been 'just three years away' - for the past 30 years. 

Air conditioning on trains - apparently excessive sometimes - if working at all?
In "Introductions and chat" [378267/32367/1]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:45, 14th August 2026
 
I am posting here on behalf of SWMBO, who travelled by train from Exeter back to home in Nailsea this afternoon, on something like the second hottest day of the year yet recorded.

Apparently, the train's air conditioning was working - so much so that several other passengers complained to the train manager that it was 'too cold'.  He ruefully explained to them that he couldn't moderate it: the air conditioning was either 'on' or 'off'.

I have no way of verifying the veracity of this anecdotal experience, but it did amuze me.

CfN. 




Re: New station at North Filton - now named as 'Bristol Brabazon' - ongoing discussion
In "Bristol and Bath (WECA, now WEMCA)" [378266/24927/21]
Posted by XPT at 19:19, 14th August 2026
 
Wonder when this station will actually open.  Hope we get news of an actual definite opening date sometime soon.  So far we've been given an update of sometime in the autumn.  Autumn ends on 30th November.  On Realtimetrains it's showing the new Bristol Temple Meads-Bristol Brabazon services starting on Sunday 13th December with the 0908 service to Bristol Brabazon.  That's the date when the new winter timetable starts.  Hopefully the station and the new services actually ends up starting a bit before then.

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378265/17260/5]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 19:08, 14th August 2026
 
Will there be any dinosaur fridge magnets available? 

Re: Imber Bus Day - merged topics, ongoing events and discussion here
In "Buses and other ways to travel" [378264/17260/5]
Posted by grahame at 19:01, 14th August 2026
 
If you are bringing younger family members and / or partners tomorrow:

Warminster has become Roarminster, with a dinosaur takeover.

Warminster Town Council and the Warminster Business Network (WBN) has created a fun dinosaur trail, transforming the town with six dinosaur models installed at five locations until Saturday 5th September.

Visitors and residents will be encouraged to explore the town, find and learn about the different dinosaurs, enter a prize draw and take part in fun activities with a full programme of dinosaur events planned throughout the summer holidays.

Two people dead after light aircraft crash - Gwynedd, 14 August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378263/32366/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:59, 14th August 2026
 
From the BBC:

Two people dead after light aircraft crash

Two people have died following a light aircraft crash in north Wales.

The aircraft was found in a remote location close to Trawsfynydd, near Porthmadog, Gwynedd, with the two people on board pronounced dead at the scene, North Wales Police said.

The force received reports shortly after 12:00 BST that a light aircraft travelling from an airfield in England had not arrived at Caernarfon Airport as scheduled.

Multi-agency air and ground searches were carried out until the aircraft was found.

A team of investigators have since been deployed by the Air Accidents Investigations Branch (AAIB).

Ch Supt Owain Llewellyn said it has been a "challenging search operation".

"Our thoughts are with the families and friends of those involved in this tragic incident," he said.

He added that his force would support the AAIB in its investigation to "ensure the circumstances leading to this incident are fully understood".

He added: "I am grateful to all of the agencies involved for their professionalism and dedication."


Re: Derailment, Wickford,14th August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378262/32365/51]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 18:50, 14th August 2026
 
From the BBC live:

'The train swung wildly,' says passenger on board derailed service in Essex

Summary

A passenger on board a derailed train in Essex tells the BBC it "swung wildly for about 10 seconds"

Emergency services are responding at the scene after a London-bound train carrying up to 45 passengers partially came off the tracks in Wickford - what we know so far

British Transport Police says "the rear carriages of a train derailed in an upright position" at 14:12 BST, adding there are no reported injuries - its statement in full

National Rail says major disruption is expected "until further notice"

It comes a day after a separate train derailment in Lewes, Sussex - the cause of that incident is still being investigated

Responding to the derailment, the Department for Transport says Britain's railways are "amongst the safest in the world"


Re: Derailment, Wickford,14th August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378261/32365/51]
Posted by stuving at 18:35, 14th August 2026
 
Also one at Clapham this morning.......perhaps these things come in threes?

But there was also a derailment on the Volks Electric Railway yesterday ...
(currently at https://x.com/imjustbrighton_)

Re: Derailment, Wickford,14th August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378260/32365/51]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 18:22, 14th August 2026
 
Also one at Clapham this morning.......perhaps these things come in threes?

Re: To the Furthest Corner of Europe - By Interrail
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [378259/32319/52]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 17:40, 14th August 2026
Already liked by eXPassenger
 
WSW Frome,

May I thank you, on behalf of all our Coffee Shop forum members, for your detailed, informative and authoritative posts in this topic.

Chris from Nailsea. 

To the Furthest Corner of Europe - By Interrail
In "The Wider Picture Overseas" [378258/32319/52]
Posted by WSW Frome at 17:04, 14th August 2026
Already liked by eightonedee, Oxonhutch
 
For anyone contemplating the rail trip to Istanbul, it can be accomplished (avoiding Sofia) from London or Northern France in minimum 4 days with 3 overnight trains and 1 hotel night in Bucharest. There are various route options for the northern parts which may extend the itinerary. To get such a precise itinerary may require some quite advance bookings in the more peak seasons.  However, it does make sense to go more slowly and take in the atmosphere along the way.

Interrail – I selected without too much thought 7 days in 1 month, first class. At the Senior Rate and in the December sale this works out at around £45 pd. Seems astonishing value. Whilst I had originally thought about going further into Turkey, I decided against at least partly because the scenic journeys get block booked by travel agents.
 
When I planned the Istanbul trip in detail it started to become clear that I really only needed Interrail for Travel Day 1 (and?2). Fares in Eastern Europe are cheap and services may be only second class. So paying outright may be beneficial. See my comments about reservations above and planning well ahead may overcome that problem. So to consume extra days I took a return trip from Copenhagen to Stockholm. The full fare for that seems to have been around £400 so I did get my monies worth on that alone. (Original plan was to return to UK by rail but fully booked became a problem. Separately - Eurostar from Amsterdam seems to have an additional Interrail allocation than from Brussels even on the same train.) It was at this point dawn lifted and I recalled that the 7 days were within the month and not the 11 months of the full pass!!  So, a swifter departure for Istanbul. I used 3 days in Scandinavia, 1 trivial domestic trip to PMH (1st class SAL to SOU mind), and 2 days towards Istanbul.

The main Interrail advice points (if planning a specific point to point journey – pref. well ahead) are:
1.   Do you need First class? Not an expensive upgrade and may be necessary for single occupation sleepers. Overnight trips only count as one day.
2.   How many days do you actually need? Constructing a trip from individual tickets might prove cheaper although less flexible. Advance fares are available in some countries which reduces the cost further. All the operators I used have internet booking platforms – some will not permit online reservation only.
3.   Do make use of the Interrail sales, typically held 3 or 4 times per year. Maximum discount of 25% is usual in December. Various periods available. Overall Pass is valid for 11 months but typically must be used within the 1 or 2 months specified. 
   
   
 
I had entitled this thread “To the Furthest Corner of Europe - By Interrail.” Now we Westerners do tend to think of Istanbul as the southeast corner of Europe. This is wildly incorrect so that the thread title is also misleading. The geographic definitions of Europe are variable, but the extremities certainly lie much further east. The most established definitions usually involve the Caucasus Mountains and the River Ural. So which cities lie on the NE and SE corners? The common answers are the Russian cities of Salekhard (on the Arctic Circle, east of Vorkuta – famed for its gulags!) and Derbent (at the end of the Caucasus range and on the Caspian Sea western shore).

So if in a calmer future anyone wishes to travel by rail to these extremities, both locations have regular passenger services from Moscow. Salekhard is served from Labytnangi Station (on the other side of the River Ob). Derbent would also have been served by the Baku to Moscow service, but Azerbaijan has largely closed its land borders since Covid. Azerbaijan has only recently resumed the Tbilisi (Georgia) to Baku train service but only for those who need no visa. Again, in the sometime future it will be possible to travel by rail from Turkey through to Baku using the new link to Georgia currently under construction.
 
As it happens I have visited both the wider regions mentioned above in my previous professional work, but never these actual locations and always travelling by air, sometimes in quite “interesting” aircraft and helicopters.

So this can be a bucket list adventure for some influencer in future. I doubt Interrail ever covered the Soviet Union but who knows about the future. EU and many other European countries are members of Interrail currently. Seemingly citizens of EU countries with no rail network are not eligible to buy Interrail tickets!

That is the conclusion of Chapter 5 and the end of the saga. I planned to add two photos (non-rail) to prove I got there but I do not know how. Enjoy the read.






 

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [378257/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 17:02, 14th August 2026
 
Huge fire next to Slough Station, Windsor line is closed and it sounds as if Slough Station may be closing soon, message is stay away.

Looks like it was brought under control before it caused thousands of pounds worth of improvements.

Ironically it's being reported that it was the Network Rail depot.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378256/31359/18]
Posted by Chris from Nailsea at 16:48, 14th August 2026
Already liked by JohnM
 
I have e-mailed a link to that post to Andy Burnham MP,  Heidi Alexander MP and Peter, Baron Hendy of Richmond Hill.

Let's see where that gets us. 

Chris from Nailsea. 

Re: Derailment, Wickford,14th August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378255/32365/51]
Posted by IndustryInsider at 16:41, 14th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Minor derailment apparently.  Train has stayed upright.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [378254/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 15:37, 14th August 2026
 
From National Rail - Elizabeth Line suspended between Paddington-Heathrow-Reading (again)


Route(s) affected
Elizabeth line between Abbey Wood and Heathrow Terminal 4 / Reading, and also between Shenfield and Heathrow Terminal 5

Great Western Railway between London Paddington and Didcot Parkway

Heathrow Express between London Paddington and Heathrow Airport

Description

A failure of the electricity supply between London Paddington and Heathrow Airport / Reading means some lines are blocked. As a result, trains may be cancelled, delayed by up to 30 minutes or revised.

Disruption is expected until 16:00.

Derailment, Wickford,14th August 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378253/32365/51]
Posted by grahame at 15:33, 14th August 2026
 
BBC Live feed

Train derails near Wickford in Essex
published at 15:11
15:11
BREAKING
A Greater Anglia train has derailed near Wickford in Essex, the BBC understands.
We'll bring you more as we get it.

Train has derailed, Network Rail confirms
published at 15:30
15:30
BREAKING
Network Rail has just confirmed to us that a train has derailed.
"We are dealing with a derailment incident in Anglia, [region] and we are working quickly to understand the situation and to provide assistance where needed," a spokesperson says.
"We will provide further information in due course.”

Re: Friday 28th February 2020 - Greta Thunberg in Bristol.
In "Looking forward - the next 2, 5, 10 and 20 years" [378252/22947/40]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 14:24, 14th August 2026
 
My how she's changed!

Re: The Adelante fleet - what if they had remained in the South West?
In "Across the West" [378251/32364/26]
Posted by Richard Fairhurst at 13:59, 14th August 2026
Already liked by rogerw
 
Given the Adelantes' propensity to self-combust, I suspect in this weather, the answer to "where would we/they be today" is "firmly locked inside the depot"...

But despite their well publicised troubles, Old Oak Common did a remarkable job of getting them to behave. I wonder whether the introduction of the 175s might have been a bit smoother if a team of engineers with experience on their sister units was still on hand.

Re: Derailment, Lewes, 13 Aug 2026
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378250/32362/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 13:40, 14th August 2026
 
He was only allowed around 60 seconds to grab that footage before the Police enforced a no-fly zone.

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378249/32334/51]
Posted by Western Pathfinder at 13:36, 14th August 2026
 
It would seem that the toilets were not involved in any of the refurbishment works carried out!..

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378248/32334/51]
Posted by ChrisB at 13:36, 14th August 2026
 
It does not appear to have been made clear that Lumo have stated categorically that none of their Stirling trains enter service without at least some working WC's and the issue seems to be one of 'mid-journey' failure.

And that's rubbish anyway! Their early morning 0615? to Stirling left London with NO working toilets the other day - Lumo even tweeted the news themselves & indicated extra-long toilet stops were going to happen.

Re: Swindon <-> Westbury service updates and amendments, ongoing discussion - 2026
In "TransWilts line - Swindon, Chippenham, Melksham, Trowbridge, Westbury, Salisbury" [378247/31359/18]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 13:23, 14th August 2026
 
Here a question for someone on GWR operations (I hope):

On the day that you cancel trains
On the day that you run less trains
On the day that you terminate trains short

How, for the love of God, do you have the audacity to peddle the excuse that for to a lack of drivers a service is being cancelled.

Clearly GWR thinks its passengers are idiots

I came on to the Coffee Shop a few minutes ago to record / summarise yesterday's performance or lack thereof ... but find myself again reporting on new cancellations.

12:17 Westbury to Swindon due 13:01
13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57

13:14 Swindon to Westbury due 13:57 will be cancelled.
This is due to a fault on this train.

The last TW service to run was operated by 158762 according to Real Time Trains.

It arrived at Westbury at 11:46.

If the same source is to be believed, it was then attached to 158767 and worked the continuation of the 11:30 from Cardiff Central to Portsmouth Harbour from Westbury scheduled at 13:03 but left at 13:16.

It is currently, again according to RTT, on its way back from the South Coast and is due to be uncoupled at Bristol Temple Meads at 17:53.

Bad - there was no coach. Or a bus. That was despite the National Rail app showing it, and the email from Great Western Railway Alerting Service alerting me to it.

The bus had been scheduled to depart at 18:15. When I sauntered over to the station entrance at about 18:05, the helpful member of Chippenham station staff informed me that buses were only organised to handle planned outages eg. engineering work. He wasn't aware of the one promised by GWR. However they were running taxis; each time a train arrived they rounded up people that looked like they wanted to take the TransWilts line and off they went. As I'd just been happily sitting on the platform, I'd missed this. I'd have to wait for the next train arrival and taxi collection.


I don't think that "GWR" condsiders all of its passengers to be idiots.  However, there is a lower standard of provision of data than one might wish at times, whatever that's due to.   Sometimes the staff operating the system day to day may be taking the easy way out, but very often they are frustrated themselves.  And at a management level, there are frustations too and the inability to manage as they could if there weren't other tiers.  This is compounded by the systems which seem to be crude, fairweather only, and designed to keep cost down rather than service up and thinking customers undertanding and informed.

I too have been stopped at Chippenham and have missed rail replacement options because I did not seek out staff and they were not running to an announced timetable, to then have to await others to share a following vehicle. 

The system is not clever there.  The real solution would not be to send off the train that had been running the service to Portsmouth, of course. It's just possible there was a cab fault and it could only be driven from one end, or that it was running out of fuel and had to be put on a diagram that got it back to base.  It's also possible that 2 cars on 1F19-  the Cardiff to Portsmouth train - with the local trains cancelled too - was a bit of a problem, and so the TransWilts train was commandeered and the service cancelled for the rest of the day.   That of course is a scurrilous suggestion bearing in mind that senior GWR managers informed us and our MP in person that this does not happen, so it must be cab fault or fuel level?


What it comes down to, and it's evidenced time and time again, is a total lack of a customer service culture from top to bottom in the rail sector which is decades behind the curve in this area - that doesn't mean that there aren't pockets of excellence and staff who go the extra mile, but overall it's a systemic failure in an industry which in this respect is still stuck in the 1970s with an attitude that customers should be grateful for whatever they are offered, and where negative feedback is treated with scepticism and defensiveness rather than "how can we learn from this and make it better?"

Hopefully the onset of GBR will do something to address this, but culture is the hardest thing to change in any organisation, and as a monopoly supplier there is even less motivation other than a commitment, which will need to be addressed, to put the customer at the forefront of everything they do - the taxpayer and the customer (more often one and the same) deserve this at least.

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378246/32334/51]
Posted by JayMac at 13:09, 14th August 2026
 
Toilets on trains should be a mature technology and providing reliably working examples should therefore be simple.
I wonder in what way hitachi have over-complicated the design and added extra points of failure ?

Lumo are using Bombardier built Class 222s on the Stirling services. Not Hitachi Class 8xx.

Re: Thames Valley infrastructure problems causing disruption elsewhere - 2026
In "Across the West" [378245/31163/26]
Posted by TaplowGreen at 12:37, 14th August 2026
 
Alterations to services between London Paddington and Oxford

Due to forecasted severe weather between London Paddington and Oxford fewer trains are able to run.
Train services running to and from these stations may be delayed or revised. Disruption is expected until 20:45 14/08.

Customer Advice
As a result of the forecast severe weather today (potential high temperatures) we have had to make some revisions to the train service.

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378244/32334/51]
Posted by rogerw at 11:23, 14th August 2026
Already liked by Mark A
 
Just for clarity, the LUMO service does not use IETs but refurbished Class 222 (meridians) from EMR

Re: North Cotswold line delays and cancellations - 2026
In "London to the Cotswolds" [378243/31371/14]
Posted by charles_uk at 10:33, 14th August 2026
 
Quite a lot not going on today...

1P10 0523 Hereford to London Paddington cancelled due to an issue with the train crew (TH)

1W15 0750 London Paddington to Great Malvern cancelled due to unknown cause (ZW)

08:18 Worcester Shrub Hill to London Paddington due 10:26 will be cancelled.
This is due to a shortage of train crew.

09:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 12:48 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

10:59 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 13:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

13:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 16:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

and later:

11:52 London Paddington to Hereford due 14:43 will be terminated at Great Malvern.
It will no longer call at Colwall, Ledbury and Hereford.
It has been delayed at London Paddington and is now 11 minutes late.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

13:50 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 16:15 will be terminated at Oxford.
It will no longer call at Hanborough, Charlbury, Kingham, Moreton-In-Marsh, Honeybourne, Evesham, Pershore, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcester Foregate Street, Malvern Link and Great Malvern.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

15:18 Hereford to London Paddington due 18:29 will be started from Great Malvern.
It will no longer call at Hereford, Ledbury and Colwall.
This is due to this train being late from the depot.

16:32 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 19:29 will be started from Oxford.
It will no longer call at Great Malvern, Malvern Link, Worcester Foregate Street, Worcester Shrub Hill, Worcestershire Parkway Hl, Pershore, Evesham, Honeybourne, Moreton-In-Marsh, Kingham, Charlbury and Hanborough.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

and also:

16:58 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 19:25 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

17:04 Didcot Parkway to Evesham due 18:23 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

18:57 London Paddington to Great Malvern due 21:18 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

18:51 Evesham to Oxford due 19:50 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

19:45 Great Malvern to London Paddington due 22:24 will be cancelled.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time.

I understand that the extreme heat can cause disruption but that doesn't seem to be the attributed reason for any of today's issues.

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378242/32334/51]
Posted by Mark A at 10:25, 14th August 2026
 
To give them credit, using the loos on the Class 80x, the door locks are good. Simple, mechanical, effective, robust & quick to use.

Mark

Re: Six-hour train services between London and Stirling running with no toilets
In "The Wider Picture in the United Kingdom" [378241/32334/51]
Posted by grahame at 10:23, 14th August 2026
 
It does not appear to have been made clear that Lumo have stated categorically that none of their Stirling trains enter service without at least some working WC's and the issue seems to be one of 'mid-journey' failure.

Toilets on trains should be a mature technology and providing reliably working examples should therefore be simple.
I wonder in what way hitachi have over-complicated the design and added extra points of failure ?

It should be that when [tolilets / trains] enter service for a day's work, it should be highly, highly unusual for them to fail during their diagram.  That does not seem to be the case with Lumo toilets or Transwilts trains.

Re: Weymouth line cancellations
In "Heart of Wessex" [378240/32074/19]
Posted by Mark A at 10:20, 14th August 2026
 
What a chapter. Those fantasy easy connections at Salisbury breaking down very badly too.

A friend travelled back from Brighton to Bath at the start of the week, lamenting the lack of the through train. Changing at Fareham I think it was on to a GWR train to Bristol with the air conditioning out of service and the staff weary. They asked if it had been out of action for their entire day - the response being that it hadn't been working all summer - and once home, they were moved to phone GWR and have a conversation about the temperature on board the train and how bad it was for staff morale and working conditions.

Mark

 
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